Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by borg, Nov 9, 2008.
are we the most fined team in the league? lol
20,000 bucks!?! Are you freaking kidding me? These fines are getting outrageous.
I wonder how Moss is going to pay it?
Straight cash homey
Hope he appeals it. That's bull****.
Is the NFL another damn country? I could have sworn that it was part of the UNITED STATES where we have that thing called FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
This is getting ridiculous.
Iffy calls gets a fine? what a joke.
I really hope that the NFLPA tells Goodell to go F**K himself with all these fines come the next CBA. Seriously, that is just ridiculous.
This fine on Moss is appropriate.
It's right in line with the Spygate fine against the Pats.
In terms of the ratio of the amount of the fine to the seriousness of the offense, it's appropriate.
If you're going to get a #1 stripped away for doing what every other team does, then it makes sense that you'd get fined $20k for pointing out that there are sometimes bad calls in games, and as a player, you have to live with them. $20k for essentially saying nothing. A #1 for essentially doing nothing.
Goodell is making a mockery of the NoFunL
Dude if your quoting what moss said about the refs than his fine is BS. He didn't say anything negative he was just answering a damn queston
espnews has this up as a roll ticker every 2 secs
This can't be true. Moss is raped almost every play, and he never complains. The refs seem to be in a trance when he goes up to catch a pass that they ignore the rules themselves.
I think Randy knew he would be fined when he made those comments. And he decided to take the hit by speaking aloud what some of his teammates may have been thinking. Taking one for the team. JMHO
Moss fined 20K for comments on officiating
20K for that? Anyone else feel thats a bit much? Moss did not really say anything specific or harsh. I guess you need to be a GM and on the competition commitee to complain about the officiating and not get fined.
ESPN - New England Patriots WR Randy Moss fined $20K for criticizing officials
Re: Moss fined 20K for comments on officiating
Sorry dude, there is a seperate thread on this that had several responses. Looks like it disappeared to the subsequent pages following yesterday's game and AT's IR news.
EDIT - earlier thread in page one itself (in the middle) and not page two.
Mods - merge?
Let's do an experiment: YOU go on TV and criticize YOUR employer. Then come back and report back how cost you.
The first amendment says the government can't punish you for your speech. But the government didn't fine Moss, his employer did. You do the same thing (unless you are employed by the state or federal government) and odds are you will be fired for cause.
Nor did the government fire the cheerleader that has been recently discussed ad nauseam her employer did.
Likewise, when country radio stations stopped playing the Dixie Chicks to punish them for their anti-war stance, it was 1st amendment issue.
Freedom of speech is only a concept when it applies to the government trying to shut you up.
The NFL is not the employer of the players, and the officials are sure as heck not their employers. Furthermore, freedom of speech is not just about the government. The first amendment only applies to the government, but the two things aren't identical.
GODell needs to spend less time slapping people for expressing concerns and more time actually addressing those concerns.
This fine has been rescinded.
Wrong. Moss' employer did NOT punish Moss. Moss' contract is with the Patriots.
Saying that there were some iffy calls is making a blanket statement. And it happened to have bee FACT. Especially since he goes on to say that its part of life. As in, there is no point *****ing about it.
Actually, odds are NOT that you'd be fired for cause unless there is specific language in the employees handbook stating such.
Fact is that Goodell is an arsehole and needs to be canned. He's hurting this league more than helping it.
If this is true, great. Where did you see that it had been rescinded?
Moss fine rescinded by NFL
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