Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by Mogamedogz, Mar 7, 2008.
Who would your top 5 be?
In their prime?
I think 1-4 would be Ted Washington and 5 might be Vince Wilfork.
I think Big Ted in his prime was the best 34 NT in the history of the game.
Yip. In their prime.
Fred Smerlas would have given Ted a run for his money. Smerlas was unbelievable with his hand techniques.
In their primes:
Can't really think of anyone else and I've intentionally left out great NTs from the past like Jim Burt because he's the size of Mike Vrabel.
I agree that Ted Washington would be in the conversation but three of the top 5 played for The San Francisco 49ers at the same time.They were Michael Carter,Jim Burt,and Fred Smerlas.I'll add Vince Wilfork to complete my five.
Fred Smerlas is the best NT to ever play and deserves a spot in Canton.
There is but 1 NT in the HOF, but he played nose on a 5 man front.
6'2" ... 213 LBS .... not even big enough for SS on our team.
How the game has progressed.
Yes, at that size it would be pathetic to watch.
How 'bout we sign this 36 yr. old free agent?
I'll bet he could take up some blockers.
I was going to go in a different direction, but also pro wrestling.
1982 All American NT's.
1st Team: William Perry (playing weight: 308 pounds)
2nd Team: Brian Pillman (playing weight: 215 pounds)
Wikipedia says he doesn't love football, which rules him out.
(As we know, Wikipedia is 100% authoritative in all things.)
I don't know where he ranks, but Joe Klecko in his prime was devastating as a NT.
How come the NFL hasn't tried any massive sumo wrestlers at NT, kind of like how BB picked up Stephen Neal out of college wrestling?
Pillman's dead, man, and has been for like 10 years.
The Big Show would be quite the scene, but how athletic is he? I don't claim to be a wrestling fan, though I know who the guy is, and I'm sure he makes more money in the WWF than he would in the NFL.
To be honest, even with Klecko and Smerlas, who both played NT but very differently than in the BB 3-4 defense, I'd still take Ted Washington seven days a week and twice on Sunday. Even at a very advanced age, he's one of the better ones in the league. When he was with the Bills, he was unbelievable. People forget just how athletic he was back in the mid-90s for a guy who probably weighed around 400 lbs.
I'm going to go with Mt. Washington. Man that 2003 defense was sick.
I'm gonna go with Ted as my man...then Freddie Smerlas. Although, I'm certainly not complaining about Vince.
I only have 4 on the short list:
Michael Dean Perry
Interesting that the 2 most popular on the board -- Washington, Smerlas -- plus my addition of Pat Williams, were all former Bills they let get away for nothing. Except for the Polian years, probably the worst front office ever. Care to take Bledsoe or Milloy off our hands for some 1st round draft picks?
For my taste, Smerlas was a little on the light side to play 3-4 nose at a level to be on the short list. I think he only went about 280, even if they listed him at 300. Bruce Smith (the one Bill I'd really want on our defense) said he was 260 but the league kept listing him at 285. If Polian weren't there when Smith was a Bill we probably could have gotten him for Steve Grogan!
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