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  1. DarrylS

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    Does that remind you of anything, guess now no only do you need your driver's license.. but your birth certificate as well.. and that was before this new immigration bill was signed into law.. if you drive in Az. make sure you have your dossier.

    The ICE claims that this is standard operating procedure????

    BTW this guy was born in America, guess Obama could not drive there;)

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    The beauty of this for the racists is that what they want (all people of Spanish descent to not have jobs) is accomplished without the cops having to do anything more than just hold them for a couple of hours. Their bosses, who need the loads delivered on time, will do the firing for them.

    Oh, and no they won't be officially fired, just told that there's no loads for them while guys who aren't subject to this harassment (white truck drivers) will get all the work. What sort of trucking company owner would put a gun to his business' head by sending out a load of perishable food or any time critical load with a guy who may just end up in the ICE office for a few hours when he can just hire some white guy who won't be bothered?
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    #91 Jersey

    Im pretty anti illegal alien but this is insane, Cops subjectivly stopping people and asking for their papers. Its like something out a WW11 movie. The Gestopo grabbing anyone they want and demanding their "papers" Stopping people to look at their papers will get old fast for the cops but they'll use it to screw with anyone they want.
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    American Citizens have been carrying their papers with them for hundreds of years, many places in our daily lives will ask us for our ID's why should Illegal Alien Criminals be treated differently than American Citizens?
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    #91 Jersey

    No one stops you just cuz your you and asks for id
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    That's not to mention the fact that this guy already demonstrated a willingness to comply with the law by stopping all by himself at the weigh station and presented a license to the authorities.
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    #91 Jersey

    This could be a real problem for Arizona with tourism. Who wants to go on vacation and get pulled over and asked for id, maybe multiple times
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    He didn't get pulled over because they thought he was an illegal. He pulled into a weigh station, which all commercial trucks do.

    I'm not privy to what Arizona requires for truck drivers in that state. Since it is a border state, maybe they require a BC be carried by anyone driving commercially through there. I know that NAFTA allows foreign truckers into the state from Mexico. Maybe that is why they require truckers to carry a BC. Not sure, but it says that this isn't because of the bill, so that would tend to make sense.

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    If a weigh station is open in Mass and you don't pull in to be checked they will chase you down and make you go back, I know it has happened to me.
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    #12 Jersey

    Did you have to show your birth certificate or was your CDL sufficient?
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    Does Massachusetts require you carry one? It could be that Arizona does. I just don't know though, since I don't live, or drive a truck through there.
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    Not sure about other states, but in RI to get a CDL you have to pass a motor vehicle background check, get a letter from your local chief of police and pass a very stringent test...

    Wouldn't it suffice to just run his name and license # through some type of registry??? This move seems a tad draconian..
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    CDL in Mass, birth certificate crossing Canadian Border.
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    #12 Jersey

    Hmmmm....this guy wasn't crossing the Canadian border, was he? In fact, he wasn't crossing any border at all. He was driving his truck through his home state....kinda like you would be if you were driving in Mass.

    I've been pulled over a time or two - so has every other member of my family - I'll even venture to bet most of the people reading this have been pulled over - how 'bout it? Was your driver's license good enough or did the cops ask for your birth certificate, too?
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    #12 Jersey

    Oh no you didn't!:eek: Don't you know it's dangerous to get Harry all riled over birth certificates? :singing:
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    Read Slowly Now, CDL IN MASSACHUSETTS

    Legal immigrants in Arizona should now be issued proper documents as proof of citizenship anybody without them should be investigated, ARIZONA HAS AN ILLEGAL ALIEN PROBLEM AND IT HAS TO BE CORRECTED OR IT WILL JUST TURN INTO A THIRD WORLD SH!T HOLE, THAT IS A FACT.
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    He was born in the State of Arizona... he is a citizen, he has to be to get a CDL...
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    Mines "Real" Obama's is a piece of sh!t......:D:D
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    #12 Jersey

    What part of HE WAS BORN IN THE UNITED STATES don't you understand, Harry? He was not A LEGAL IMMIGRANT IN ARIZONA - he WAS BORN IN THE UNITED STATES. Those of us who are BORN IN THE UNITED STATES don't have PROPER DOCUMENTS - nor are we required to carry or produce them.
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    I know and Darryl is right if he had a USA CDL that should have been good enough, something is fishy with this one either with the cops or with the guys papers....

    Arizona Has A Problem How Should It Be Handled?

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