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  1. 51Hits

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    The Oline.

    They continue to come up small in the playoffs. Cost us a title in 07 and they're straight getting their ass whooped here. We need to replace Koppen, the man is done he simply cannot handle an elite DT. We can improve over Neal, im tired of light wasting everyones time on this roster. I'd die for a line I could trust.

    Blame it on adjustments all you want, but all I'm seeing is Brady on the ground. Jesus could bless this team and they simply aren't gonna get 3 points playing this way. Yet again the line is killing us in the postseason. Just sayin.
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    Completely agree man, idc if this ist he playoffs and the whole the defenses are better blah blah blah now were gona let mankins go and watch this sh!t go further down the drain. Here come the homers
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    Umm, they were playing pretty darn well up until now. So what happened differently?
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    they get exposed later in the season? Have we not always said Brady makes them look better than they are? When it comes to elie defenses, this happens
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    They demolished pretty much this same defense in Week 13. So, again, what changed?
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    They demolished pretty much this same defense in Week 13.
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    while the OL was bad today, I still think that the Pats win if not for 1) benching Welker in the first series and 2) fake punt at the end of the first half. Both were ridiculous, flat-out awful decisions by Belichick.
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    Even when Brady had tome to throw he had no one open. The Jests blanketed the Pats skill players all game long and rendered them totally ineffective. Whether that is a skill player problem or a playcalling problem I don't know but it needs to be fixed going forward because the Jests aren't leaving the division anytime soon!
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    Look, I'm ALL about the lines. Good lines, you win. But how bad did they play?

    I saw Brady multiple times checking out the receivers like a half dozen times. Nobody open. Is that on the line? Don't think so.
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    I agree. Aside from the blind side blitz in the first half, the rest were coverage sacks.
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    I felt Brady had a lot more time later in the 3rd/4th quarters, but didn't have much time prior to that, which is why the majority of our points were posted in the second half. The line seemed to stabilize a bit as the game went on.
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    Brady has to play better as well, and so far Im still waiting for Tate to show any sort of consistency because the Jets had no fear of getting beat deep today.
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    Brady had all day to throw AND he was sacked 5 or so times.

    That's a triumph for the defense.
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    Needed to run the ball more. Too much running away from people today, not enough running at them. Brady $ucked tday. He checked to the pass way too much in the first half Quite frankly by the second half it was to late. Staf and the QB not the OL. Sure should they try to make a couple upgrades yeah. Not the lines fault today.....
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    The whole offensive line sucked today when it mattered as did Brady.. not to mention the ridiculous calls to keep the Law Firm on the sideline with Danny Woodhead out there for lots of snaps.

    The Patriots were pathetic today. The Jets got into their heads and we tried all the bull**** tricks etc instead of sticking to what won us games in the first place.
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    We had no answer for their defense, and our game plan played right into the Jets strength. Their secondary just mans up well against our WRs, we really had no one open, and when we did Brady was put in a situation where he'd have to make a difficult throw with poor footing, which is something he won't do.
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    Too bad the o-line is only getting older without any replacements on board. Unless the Pats spend all of their 1st-2nd round draft picks on offensive linemen, which BB won't because he has to "outsmart" everyone else and trade down 20 times, the o-line will continue to be a problem in big games.
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    They gotta get mankins back though. Wrestling that fumble away from 5 jets was clutch. Is that mike pouncey kid as good as his brother?
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    The sacks were more due to receivers not getting open than the OLs blocking.
    Did Hernandez show up today?
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    ur exactly right, for past years in big games, our line, brady, scheme, cbs, pass rush have axed us..
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    The O-Line is fine. Koppen can be upgraded but we really need to trade whatever we can to get Calvin Johnson.
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    there were wrs open alot more than u think, brady struggles alot at times against pressure ds after getting blitzd or knocked down...i thought bill obrien belichick had a poor fourth qtr play callin on offensive side..ignorant...defensive was solid except for lbs, sanchez and jets just made sum great plays...
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    They were coverage sacks and they aren't continuing anything, so you don't have to worry about that.:rolleyes:
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    Those centers you are looking for are extemely rare. Koppen does a great job against small to good sized DT's. He struggles with enormous ones like Ngata. I don't know if you've noticed? But Mangold who is considered by many to be the best Center was moved around quite a bit by our own Wilfork this season. That is just how it works. Koppen is doing fine in most games which makes him a very adequate center. Yes we need a replacement RT as Vollmer will be moving over to LT pretty soon. Also another big guard with Center experience would be helpful.

    What we really need is a pass rush. I think everyone can agree this makes many phases of our game better with that one guy. I love multiple draft picks but I'm willing to trade the farm right now to get one. We have enough rookies.
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    Sorry, but I have to disagree with you.

    1) If the players were told not to get into it (which we know they were), then BB had the right to bench Welker for the 1st series. And I bet Welker immediately after the presser. We only found out about it prior to the game. However, we also don't know if that was the real reason. That was just the media speculation.

    2) The Fake punt was great if it had worked. The fact that Chung dropped the ball because he was getting ready to go before he had the ball is what killed that play. Had Chung not dropped the ball, then he had a huge open lane to the right because Coleman's aggressiveness took him up and out of the play. It's no different than the direct snaps that the Pats have run.

    Sorry, but neither was a flat out awful decision. You only say that because you are ignorant of the entire thought process.
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    Koppen has been sucking for most of the year. The only reason he looked like he'd gotten better was because of the return of Mankins.. Koppen clearly blew several assignments today and it cost the Patriots.
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    Brady held the ball way too long. He used to dump it off when the alarm went off in his head. Tonight he looked like Bledsoe, waiting for something that wasn't there.
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    Greetings,
    Agreed. Watching the game today Brady had all time to make many throws that ended up being nothing. The Jets played a lot better especially when it came to coverage in the game.
    Peace,
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    I've been banging the interior O-Line drum all season long. Koppen can easily be upgraded as can our situation at RG (where Connolly absolutely sucked a fat one today). At RG, I'd love to see them take a look at Pouncey in the later rounds. I think he has the ideal build and temperament that we look for at the RG position. I must admit, though, that I'm not nearly as familiar with the centers in the draft.
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    O-Line was pretty bad but tonight's loss comes down to Brady not stepping up.
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