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    I would like the pats to give him a shot. Apparantly he was injured, but then has been benched the past 2 weeks and they may (or may already have) activate Michael Bush.

    Lamont has requested that he gets released and according to this article, the Raiders just might do it.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/...lt=Ag60XZ7JfssRuoeM1pvW5iP.uLYF?urn=nfl,54598

    On this team, Lamont Jordan would have nothing to complain about and i think he could really help us out. He's talented and really could make an impact. His first season on a horrible oakland team was actually pretty good but last season sucked.

    And if it wouldn't work out, it would be like Doug Gabriel last year, just cut him.
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    Re: If the Raiders release Lamont Jordan.......

    He'd have to get through waivers first. That being said, how many years does he have left on his contract?
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    Re: If the Raiders release Lamont Jordan.......

    Someone answered my ? above ^^^

    Nice find, does he need to pass thru waivers or is he free to sign with any team?
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    Re: If the Raiders release Lamont Jordan.......

    I agree. Both Maroney and Faulk might be banged up. It is worth a shot and Moss could put in a good word for him. :)

    Our running back depth worries me.
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    Re: If the Raiders release Lamont Jordan.......

    Raiders paid big money for Jordan in free agency. Damn, their front office SUCKS!
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    Re: If the Raiders release Lamont Jordan.......

    Maybe his salary will scare teams from claiming him and he will be free to shop his services.
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    Re: If the Raiders release Lamont Jordan...

    We should sign him just so we can see his chainsaw celebration every week.
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    Re: If the Raiders release Lamont Jordan.......

    I've been thinking about this scenario for several weeks now. The problem, though, is if a team claims him, they're only on the hook for this year's salary, which isn't prohibitive. There's no way a team in the AFC is going to allow him to go to the Patriots.

    The Raiders were in first place in the AFCW, and Jordan was leading the league in rushing. He got hurt, got benched, and I don't think the Raiders have won a game since. Very curious.
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    Re: Lamont Jordan to be possibly be cut

    Where are the Patriots in waiver priority? I would love bringing him in.
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    Re: Lamont Jordan to be possibly be cut

    Does he even have to clear waivers? Isn't there some provision for veterans to be released outright (or am I hallucinating again)?
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    Re: Lamont Jordan to be possibly be cut

    There is but that only applies to vested players released prior to the trade deadline passing. After the trade deadline has passed, in this case it has, all released players are subject to waiver claims.

    But I'm wondering. Couldn't Jordan refuse to report to any team that puts a claim in for him?
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    Re: Lamont Jordan to be possibly be cut

    I was wondering the same thing.... I remember hearing that could have happened with Simeon Rice when he was claimed by the Colts. But like the rest of the nation he has a love affair for Tony Dungy :rolleyes: and decided not to refuse to report.
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    Re: Lamont Jordan to be possibly be cut

    Thanks. He can refuse to report but I think the team that claimed him would retain his rights. So if a team wants him and has teh cap to pay him, he will not make it to NE.
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    Re: Lamont Jordan to be possibly be cut

    Think of how pissed everyone would be if he Pats scooped him up.
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    Re: Lamont Jordan to be possibly be cut

    That's probably correct.

    Maybe the Pats should trade ther 7th rounder for Jordan. It's not like they need that pick anyway.
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    Re: Lamont Jordan to be possibly be cut

    Sure he could, but his new team could go after part of his signing bonus (even though his old team paid it) since he's now in breach of his contract with them.
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    Re: If the Raiders release Lamont Jordan...

    It used to be that a player had to clear waivers with teams picking in the order of the draft position. I don't know if the current or the actual previous year's draft order is used, but I think it is the previous year's draft order.

    But things changed in one of the Player's Association agreements. I think if you are vested by time in the league, eventually you are exempt form waiver claims as a veteran and are a real true free agent. Can anyone confirm that?

    And the second question is whether Lamont Jordan is such a qualified and vested veteran, if such a situation exists.
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    Re: Lamont Jordan to be possibly be cut

    So, in order to protect himself, Jordan reports to new team and then does what he just did with the Raiders, ask for his release. At this point he tells every other team that he'll do the same with each team until he makes it to the Pats ;)
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    Re: Lamont Jordan to be possibly be cut

    and he would sit out the season

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    Re: If the Raiders release Lamont Jordan.......

    Yup, he's supposed to be 100% recovered from the back injury, but they've benched him. Kiffen gave some excuse about the running game not clicking with Jordan.

    I think he'll clear waivers, and hit the market. He's had a few injuries lately, and the Raiders benched him, so I don't think anyone will want to pick up the remainder of his contract. Instead they'll all hope to be the team that signs him on the cheap, and if he doesn't work out it won't matter. That's if the Raiders do in fact release him, lol!

    Lamont is a player I always liked, and he seems to have the type of ability that could fit in with the Patriots.
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    Am I wrong, or is the team only on the hook for this year's pay. They can release him after the season, right? Starting next year, his salary is something like 4.7 million, but for this year it's only 1.8, and that's going to be Prorated to about 40%.

    Or is the entire contract guaranteed? That would seem strange.
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    Re: If the Raiders release Lamont Jordan...

    He mucked his back up bad vs. Miami and hasn't been running hard at all ever since. He started the Titans game, looked awful, then Fargas spelled him and looked so much better. It's been Fargas' job since then.

    Back injuries can linger and affect a guy's play a whole season. An injured Jordan might be no better than Corey Dillon at this point.

    Regards,
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    Re: If the Raiders release Lamont Jordan.......

    You're right. Only have to pay him for 6 games. That's it.

    That's why I think some other team will pick him up.

    Of course, if he plays well, whoever picks him up can decide to keep his contract.
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    Re: Lamont Jordan to be possibly be cut

    Would the Pats want him? IIRC the reason Oakland hasn't been thrilled with him, apart from effort and so forth, is his poor pass blocking, a must for Pats backs.
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    Raiders may cut Lamont Jordan

    Do you think we could pick up Lamont Jordan off waivers if they do cut him? I don't think anyone here thinks we're not in need of RB's, although a number of teams would have higher priority w/ waivers than us...

    Would anyone here want him?

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/...lt=AumFbzdf.D.INgAuXJK_uAJDubYF?urn=nfl,54598
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    Re: Raiders may cut Lamont Jordan

    if lamont jordan comes to the pats and performs very well... i will call the oakland raiders the New England farm system...
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    Re: Raiders may cut Lamont Jordan

    lamont has talent but they didnt wanna cut him and replace him with Michael Bush because they thought Chiefs would go after him
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    Re: Raiders may cut Lamont Jordan

    I actually should have done more research before posting this. Since posting this, I've been reading up on it for the past few minutes, and it looks like they IR'd Michael Bush about 2 hours ago, which means its quite unlikely (although not impossible) they'll cut Jordan.

    Apparently they were worried about KC getting Jordan.
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    Re: Lamont Jordan to be possibly be cut

    Is this a trick question?

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