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SB or NFL?

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  1. Super Bowl

    58 vote(s)
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  2. League

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  1. PatsFan24

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    Would you rather have Brady be named Super Bowl MVP or League MVP? Only pick one. What is more impressive..a 3rd SB MVP or a 3rd NFL MVP?
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    I'm not a Pats fan but obviously it's better to have a regular season MVP and a super bowl victory. Besides, super bowl MVPs are kind of cheap; they're almost always awarded to the quarterback of the winning team.

    On the other hand, regular season MVPs are much more difficult to attain because even though QBs are favored to win it, there's a lot of competition amongst QBs to see who will get it.

    Brady has to compete with Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Philip Rivers, and Aaron Rodgers every year to win the regular season MVP, and that's just counting the quarterbacks.
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    The (not so) unstated implications of Tom Brady winning a Super Bowl MVP are...
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    Well, he stated in the title that the Pats win the super bowl either way. So, if the Pats are guaranteed to win a super bowl, which would you rather have him win? A regular season MVP or a super bowl MVP?
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    sb mvp should always trump any kind of regular season award
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    Even if you win the super bowl as well?
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    Eh...it depends. The SB MVP Aaron Rogers got last year was not a cheap award. Same with the ones Montana got. Or the Brady MVP in 2003. Now the year Peyton Manning got it...that was a cheap one ;)
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    well in that case.....still i'd say sb mvp means more, bigger game right?

    i guess if the player in question played well enough to win the sb mvp but a teammate had better stats, then there's that argument

    i'd just say in the end , regular season mvp seems pretty meaningless , because the playoffs are a 2nd season.
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    But if Rodgers played just average he most likely would have won it either way, unless another player on the Packers had an outstanding game.

    When can you say in recent memory that a player won a regular season MVP without having played well?

    You can argue that certain players deserved it more, like how Manning seems to get it when others perform better than him, but usually it still goes to a player who had good stats.
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    I can see your point on that. Still though the SB MVP has rewarded some of the best performances in NFL history, and doing it on the biggest stage with everything on the line. To me that is not a cheap award.
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    It's true that certain players have played great in the SB and therefore the award wasn't cheap for them.

    Players like Eli Manning though, got it even though they had lackluster performances. Everyone remembers that one throw he made and that one drive that won them the game; the rest of the game he played like crap.

    And, if Patriots fans are being honest with themselves, Tom Brady won a cheap MVP in the 2002 super bowl. These were his stats:

    16 of 27 passes completed for 145 yards and a touchdown.


    I don't see how anyone can argue that those stats are worthy of an MVP.
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    I'll take SB MVP.
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    If you get the SB victory either way, then I would rather that Brady get the regular season MVP and someone else on the Pats (Welker? Mayo?) get the SB MVP.
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    Smart man. That's the logical decision. Regular season MVP means more if you get a Lombardi to go with it. For a regular season MVP you're competing against all the other players in the league, but for a super bowl MVP you're only competing against the players on the two teams playing.
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    Brady did lead a great GW drive, so it is more than just the stats. Though I think Ty Law should have gotten it that year.
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    I think some people need to slow down a bit. Let's get a playoff win first. The last two playoff games TB hasn't played well. While I feel such discussions are bad Karma, I think we should be in a SB or at least close before having such a discussion.
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    I think we need to understand that this team is going to win the SB because they won the first game. It looked like they were going to be a last place team after the Lions game, but now they are going to the SB.
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    That makes a lot of sense. I guess the other charger fans and I should just give up hope of winning it this year because the Patriots are guaranteed the Lombardi. ;)
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    Or GRONK. :D
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