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    As stated here (With NFL lockout almost over, big questions must be answered - ESPN), Asomugha to the Jets is a dark horse possibility. You know Rex Ryan would love to pair him with Revis. Now, if that happens, how should the Pats approach the Jets on offense?

    It would seem to me that Asomugha and Revis would pretty much lock down New England's best two WRs, whoever they are. That doesn't mean NE wouldn't be able to throw, however. But what should be the Pats' approach?

    I would love to see the Jets go crazy on a pass defense only to have the Patriots come at them with 2 TE, their best blocking WR, and just hammer them mercilessly on the ground. Then use Gronk, Hernandez, Vereen, and Woodhead out of play action, matched up against linebackers.
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    Then Kyle Wilson is getting picked on as the #3, and Sanchez is throwing to Jerricho Cotchery and Patrick Turner.
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    Considering all the posts on here about the Jets dire cap situation I don't see it happening.

    If it did I would certainly look to run a lot of 2 TE sets. Establish the run and target Crump and Hernandez with a few extra throws.
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    Unless Nnamdi takes a huge paycut, the Patriots will be able to just run the ball against the likes of Bob the pizza delivery guy, Gino the car wash owner and Petra the real estate agent.
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    Yea, and if we don't improve the pass rush and give Sanchez 10mins to throw Patrick Turner will eventually get open lol.
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    I hope to god the Jets do something moronic like handing Nmandi a gigantic contract and tying up the majority of their team in two corners. Like Deus said, the rest of their team would be hobos off the street.
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    then the pats would need to use Hernandez Edelman and Gronkowski more like they should have in the playoff Lose
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    Jets are one of the teams above the cap. They will have create a lot of cap space to get him and sign Holmes.
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    ^ This. Jets still really want to sign Edwards or Holmes. They'd have a lot of trouble giving one of them the big contract they'll want AND signing the #1 FA on the market.
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    Yeah, they had a hard enough time just being able to sign Revis last yr. If anything, I believe they'd look to re-sign Cromartie or someone in that caliber/range at a much, much cheaper rate.

    I think it's about 50/50 Cromartie will actually walk though, just due to his selfishness. I think Brad Smith and one of Edwards/Holmes walks too.

    At the end of the day, I think that the NYJ main priority will be to try and retain some of B.Smith, Cromartie, Holmes, and Edwards. I'm guessing they keep 2 of the 4, and the team doesn't even change that much. I'd love to see Holmes leave though, and Cromartie would be my #2 choice.
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    i really hope the jets get Asomugha somehow, it means they wont be able to sign anyone. and the patriots can just destroy them with tight ends and runningbacks all day long.

    you could use one of your 'non padded practice weeks' against the jets.
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    This is a nutty thread. There are several teams WAY below the cap (none of them being the over the cap Jets with key players still not included) who could meet A's $ needs without cuting several key players to meet the cap.
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    That's one big if. That GM doesn't spend big too often. When was the last big free agent signing they made? Lito Shepard? Cromartie and Holmes were for bargains. And too many teams are interested in the player. And too many teams need to spend some cash just to make the cap floor.
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    FWIW, Peter King says that he believes Asomugha wants to play for the Jets and a supposive Jets insider on Jetsinsider.com (the people on that board feel he is legit) says that Rex Ryan and Asomugha have been talking and he is willing to take less to go to the Jets. He says that barring a ridiculous, can't pass up offer; Asomugha will sign with the Jets. I tend to be skeptical of posters who claim they have inside sources, but I figured I would pass it along.

    Personally, I think signing Asomugha might be a blessing in disguise. That would be Holmes would be gone. That means the Jets are going to have to hold opponents under 10 points almost every game. Sanchez was more lucky than good much of the season and Holmes had the game winning play in the fourth quarter or overtime in something like four of his first six games with the Jets. The Jets had a lot of games where their offense was horrible for three or three and a half quarters and then scored points in bunches which they won't be able to do without a top WR opposite Braylon Edwards.

    From King's MMQB:

    Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/07/24/labor/index.html#ixzz1T7ebBFSg
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    He did overpay for Bart Scott and Calvin Pace.
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    Wow, what the hell.

    I'm sorry but I fear a team with the two best CBs in the league on the same team.
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    Not sure how accurate anything is over on the JETSCAP page since his cap figures are certainly not close to accurate. But he has them with just 51 players under contract not including their rookies. He has almost 30 players making the about to be increased minimum salary. Lots of PSers and futures players in their top 51... Training camp rosters will expand to 90... They have 3-6 of their own FA that are crucial to sign or replace. They can restructure Sanchez deal and a few others to create space, but there are limits as to how much space you can create with that kind of roster...let alone in this compressed atmosphere.
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    The only way this happens is if they pass on BE or AH. I don't see them not extending a WR in this group.
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    Who will rush the passer? Or catch the Sanchise's passes? Or run their Wildcat? Or replace the guys they cut in February or fill out the 46 game day active roster spots??

    Behind every cloud lies a potential silver lining.
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    To get Nmadi, they will likely have to cut either Calvin Pace or Bryan Thomas or both. Their OLBs were mediocre last year and one of their best OLBs last year is already gone in Jason Taylor.

    The Jets haven't shown they have a consistent running game and that Shonn Greene can be the fulltime primary back. Sanchez led the league in dropped INTs last year and he can't be lucky like that every year. As I pointed out already, Holmes was a key component of the Jets pulling victory out of the jaws of defeat in a lot of games last year in a lot of last second wins last year.

    In theory, having the two best CBs in the league is a huge advantage. In practice, it might not be the case. The Jets have a lot holes right now and to not be able to address those holes and create more holes to overstock one position, could be a huge mistake. Only time will tell.

    Personally, I think it is all talk because I think Houston, Philly, Dallas, or Washington are going to give him a deal that he can't refuse.
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    The JEST will find a way. :(
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    With this years cash spending to 99% to the cap. the elite FAs are going to break the bank. TB is $50 million under the cap and need a CB. If Aso signs with the Jets he be leaving millions on the table............not happening.
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    You're right. How else can you explain all those Lombardi's they've amassed in the last 4 decades...:bricks:
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    Will they? The last two seasons, they struggled in the regular season only to heat up in the playoffs. They got lucky in 2009 that 9-7 got them into the playoffs and that they faced two teams that had nothing to play for. Last year they had a lot of games that they had no right winning and pulled out last minute wins. I give them credit for doing that, but you can't live on the edge like that year after year.

    The Jets are an enigma right now. They could be a strong contender or a pretender because they have tons of holes that they have to fill. If they ignore those holes to fill one or two and then put a bunch of JAGs everywhere else, it could seriously weaken the team. This is not the NBA.
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    I ment somehow pulling off Nnamdi, as well as stuffing other players below the cap. I could see that BS happening with Goodell.

    Like, say they got Nnamdi, Braylon and Holmes both walk. Couldn't they still get Plaxico and Naane cheap?
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    Make no mistake...the Jets aren't in good cap shape...sure they can play around with restructuring but they have already started out OVER the cap and will have to scramble just to sign a couple of their key players to contracts..Add on the minimum salary increases and they are even more over the cap.....

    Do they mortgage the future even more with restructures? I hope so....The Pats are doing it the right way....They have few holes from top to bottom and have nice depth players .....

    BB knows better than anyone here where his team needs help....

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    You have to give them some credit, they've been better than the pats the last 2 years. Ryan has done a good job.
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    If they made that signing by mid season with a 4-4 record,the internal bickering would boil over so bad, they'd make James Harrison look like a team player.

    If they finished a distsnt 2nd or 3rd,Tannenbaum will be looking for a job.
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    Jets have still finished BEHIND Pats in AFC East......BB has built a team that is in the long haul....Tanngenius and Rex have pieced together a team that was supposed to take it all LAST season..they missed their window....their star players will be leaving for greener pastures......

    Let's see how they fare this year....

    My guess is Sanchez doesn't get lucky and pull games out of his butt in the last seconds of games due to dumb penalties and stupid plays by the opposition and his interceptable passes don't get dropped half the time by his opposition..Holmes pulled games out for them a few times last season...will he still be a Jet this year? I doubt it.....Cromartie also most likely a goner.....Brad Smith may be also in a new uni...


    Going to be fun watching the scramble in NY this season.....
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    Better is a subjective term. We've won a lot more regular season games. They've won a couple of more post season games. But neither team has won it all. The Pats are in fine shape cap wise. The JETS are not. We don't have many glaring holes on our roster. They have several. We have Bill and he is the root of the entire system. They have Rex and he's a glorified DC who doesn't have a clue about offense or salary caps or long range organzational planning so (like Herm) he remains pretty much at the mercy of his surrounding cast - and he doesn't even have final say on his own roster or staff.

    Ryan has also had some good fortune along the way. Heck, he thought they were mathmatically eliminated down the stretch in that first season. There were more games handed to them down the stretch in both of his seasons than games he somehow found a way to win. I'd say he and Tannenbaum bought themselves some time, but the clock is truly ticking for one if not both of them. They've been playing in a window and haven't made the sacrifices count yet. They probably have two more years in which to get over the SB hump. Then their window closes.

    Peter also predicts that Revis will holdout in 2012... In the Big Apple the base will turn on you faster than in Boston, even. Just ask the Mangenius. Or Herm. Or old Noodle Arm. Or Vernon.
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