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  1. PowerRunRevival

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    Does anyone think that Carolina would start selling off pieces if they realized before the trading deadline that they aren't going to compete for a few years?

    Do you think Jonathan Stewart (I assume they'd trade him before Williams) is worth a 1st? how about a 2nd?

    Would it even be worth it since the team seems to prefer running plays out of the shotgun?

    Just a passing thought.
     
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    Or a 'running' thought ;)


    I'll get my coat!
     
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    Most Carolina fans (Im in SC) see Carolina only being a QB away from being a contender.
     
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    I don't think Matt Moore is that bad!

    I still think Carolina will be close to 8-8!
     
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    Why is Carolina being singled out? There are tons of teams you could wonder the same thing about. Trades mid-season almost never happen, especially for young stars. My inside sources tell me the Patriots will bring back Junior Seau at running back.
     
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    No Jersey Selected

    We've got their second I presume.
     
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    That and the fact that they have two 1000 yard caliber backs floundering in an offense that can't block or throw the ball.
     
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    Stewart? No chance he gets traded.

    Maybe DeAngelo Williams gets dealt, if they don't plan on paying him big bucks, but he's going to cost a pretty penny in cash and picks...likely more than the team is willing to invest in the position.
     
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    The return of Patrick Pass perhaps???
     
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    Jonathan Stewart is my Binky. IMO, he would be the ideal #1 back for this offense. Listened to an interview of Jared Allen (last week)... called Stewart the toughest RB to deal with. As far as Carolina is concerned, too many #1s were devoted to RB...has left them thin across the board. I would give back their #2 today for Stewart. Especially with Faulk gone, Stewart can catch it and pound it. As I said, he is my binky
     
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    I would say yes to a #2. But, it has to be ours and not thiers.
     
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    Hey the Raiders suck too, do you think they will trade Calvin Johnson?:rolleyes:
    Patsfans.com is notorious for this lol
     
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    That's ridiculous.

    if you said Antoine Smith, i think you might be able to build some consensus :D
     
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    Hey Mr. Sass, Calvin Johnson isn't on the the Raiders now it's my turn to roll my eyes.
     
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    I threw it out a while ago if we were ever going to do a play for player trade, mankins for stewart would be a good deal by both teams..
     
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    I'm not really for giving up anything major for a RB, unless it's Mankins and we are unable to score an OLB/DE/CB with him.

    We could have had Chris Johnson at RB last week and with the way our Oline performed, his d*** would've been kicked in too.
     
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    Wrong team ;)
     
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    i like what you are saying, however our big problem is the OLine. They do not run block particularly well, so bringing in player X without addressing the OLine run blocking would be a waste IMO. Love Stewart though
     
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    Thought I would use the Corey Dillon trade as a comparison
    Dillon:
    Traded to Patriots for #56 in the draft.
    Age 29 (October birthday)
    Weight 225
    Previous season: 541 yds
    Salary: $3.3 in 2004, scheduled for $3.85 in 2005
    Health: 2003 injury issues
    Roster status: Emergence of Rudy Johnson affected carries

    Summary: Pats traded the 24th pick of the second round for an aging star with attitude issues that was coming off a weak season marred by injuries.

    Jonathan Stewart:
    Age 23
    Weight 235
    Under contract thru 2012 with salaries in the $1.2-1.3mill range.
    Injury: Achilles issues
    Roster status: Shares carries with Deangelo Williams. Not starting

    Summary: Younger, cheaper, bigger RB but with health question.

    My point here is that the Patriots paid a hefty price for an aging, talented malcontent who was thee missing piece to the SB puzzle.
    Stewart is worth more if you only compare age, salary,contractual lockup, size, ability. The value that BB placed on "the missing puzzle piece" can't be known. One thing to consider, the '03 Pats had an extra #2, just like now. Final final point, I've been told by someone with knowledge of the Pats draft, Ryan Matthews was high on their board but SD's huge jump up in the first blew that plan out of the water.
     
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    OTOH, Al Davis is incompetent enough that I could actually see him trading a pick away to the wrong team. ;)
     
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