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  1. BRiZ

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    O'Connell is waaaaaay better than Cassel, we played the Cheifs and barely won. O'Connell would be making this offense score more, we've seen it in the preseason.

    I pray to god that Brady hasnt torn a ligament.
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    I agree.....
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    We saw O'Connell do it against 3rd stringers. Cassel just did it in a real game.

    72% comp, 8.4 yds/play, 1 TD, 0 TURNOVERS

    What else do you want out of your backup QB? I'll agree that we should temper any expectations for future games (I think the Jets will be a better test), but you can't tell me that Cassel didn't earn himself another start (if necessary) based on this game.
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    I think BB would know best.

    Let's give Cassel a few weeks of starter prep before we judge, is all.
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    What exactly did Cassel do wrong? Did he throw an INT? Nope.

    What I saw was poor play-calling by McDaniels and a defense that got soft towards the end of the game.

    How is that Cassel's fault? Here's a newsflash for you. Its not.

    There is a reason O'Connell didn't go into the game in the 4th quarter. It's because Cassel was playing very well. Maybe you should watch the game instead of gushing over fantasty crap.
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    In BB we trust. If O'Connell was the better QB, he would play.
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    Cassel is our QB until Brady returns.

    All of the armchair QB's and Cassel bashers need to STFU.
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    I don't understand this thread.

    Cassel came in and did better than we all expected. No one thought he would play as good as he did.

    So i'm not sure why you are posting this. Maybe wait until Cassel plays like crap? I doubt O'Connel would have done better.
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    he almost threw an INT right before the Moss TD, it was a bad throw and hit the defender right in the chest but he dropped it. I thought to myself jeez we got away with one there.

    Cassel played well but OConnell can play better imo. And remember we were playing KC and Cassel didnt exactly light it up. Id hate to see what he does against the Chargers, OConnell would give us a fighting chance against the good teams.
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    I have read a lot of moronic posts on this board. I have even started a few.

    But this may be the single most moronic post ever.
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    I don't understand this thread either. Cassel was more than I expected.

    How did Brady do in his very first game?

    Cassel has seasons of knowledge about this system and playbook.

    O'Connell has literally only months of this system.

    Fans are way to inpatient and expect immediate results.

    You don't expect Cassell to be better next week if he has to play?

    He was literally thrown into the game. Next week if he plays he'll know he's starting.
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    Definite candidate for "Most ignorant thread of the day"
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    You have very little to base this on. If O'Connell was that good out of college he would have gone in the first round. he's a project who showed flashes against 3rd stringers. Forgive me for not seeing the necessity to jeopardize his development by making him play before he's ready.

    Cassel made some GREAT plays today. He also made some mistakes, but nothing costly. Bottom line, this team could have laid down when Brady left, but he gave them life and kept them in it, and we squeaked out a win. We don't KNOW that O'Connell would do that. We just SAW Cassel do it.
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    SOrry, but, your an idiot.......tell me Cassels QB rating please or exactly what he did wrong. I guess leading your team to victory means nothing to you.

    Cassel came in and did a great job - period. Please dont take away from that.
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    I think we should resign Chad Jackson to play QB, I hear he is the man. :rolleyes:
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    Ventrone will be the starting QB.....
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    I once made a thread on this site where i asked what would you do if you had a gun to your head and had to pick one option out of several disgusting choices.

    This thread is worse than that. Finally someone has created a crappier thread than that one, i thought i'd have to hold on to that forever. Thanks Briz.
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    This guy still thinks that we will REGRET letting Jackson go... You're not going to get through.

    Cassell played, I would think, better than both the optimists and pessimists would have thought. He certainly exceeded my expectations.
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    this post does not merit any attention
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    I think Cassell did just fine ! If Brady is out long term, Cassell will be practicing with the first team and learning the game plan. Throwing in a rookie over Cassell ( At this point ) makes no sense what so ever ! I think also being able to gameplan knowing it's going to be Cassell will enable the Pats too put a better offense on the field.

    I'm not worried, but it looks like it's going to be another year where the knuckles will be white more often then not !! Memories !!
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    This is quite a poor thread.
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    Does anyone here REALLY believe we would even have a winning record with Cassel?
    I don't. We bearly beat the Chiefs today guys. I love the Pats as much as anyone but lets get real.
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    Almost only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades and nuclear bombs, Chicken Little. Cassel threw the ball down and away making it nearly impossible for the defender to catch. Your over-exaggeratistic claim that it hit the guy in the chest if farcical. You really need to stfu and just watch Cassel because O'Connell isn't going to do sh!t but warm the bench.

    You clearly didn't watch the game. If you had, you'd have seen Cassel complete 72% of his passes and had a 8.4YPA. You would have also seen the play-calling by McDaniels get very predictable. Honestly, McDaniels looked like he panicked in his play-calling after Brady went out because Cassel was very calm and collected and played extremely well.
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    I'll ask you the same thing I asked the other chicken littles. What did Cassel do wrong today? Seriously. Cassel didn't cause the defense to play like crap in the 3rd and 4th quarters. Cassel wasn't the one who caused Randy Moss, Wes Welker or Matt Slater to Fumble the friggin ball. And it was McDaniels doing a lousy job on the play calling.

    So, what the hell did you see to tell you otherwise?
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    Right now we have a winning record with Cassel. :p let hope it stays that way.
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    Fox is saying Brady;s injury is an ankle...lol


    maybe they get their info from the Jets
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    AND? Name a QB who has made 0 bad throws and 0 bad decisions...

    Not for nothing but your opinion on the matter is absolutely worthless. You believe that a rookie can perform better than a guy in the system for 4 years. You believe this based on what he did against 3rd and 4th stringers, a lot of whom are not playing for any team right now? And just forget about the system and experience in it, that means NOTHING. Read and react? changing routes? what the hell is that, who cares.



    And remember KC is an extremely young team and you have no idea how good/bad they wlil be this year. And remember Matt was not expecting to play and was thrown into the fire. And remember the O-Line didn't exactly play lights out. And remember HE PLAYED AS WELL AS YOU COULD EVEN HOPE a backup qb would play under the circumstances. And remember you have no idea what the hell you are talking about.




    The friggin audacity of people to claim that a rookie... ah nevermind, I just have to deal with another year in lala fairy tale land.
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    I believe we are a 10-12 win team with Cassel as QB. But you go ahead and watch your preseason games and declare yourself an expert. BB is stupid, he does not know more than us who actually watched the preseason. BB did not see the preseason nor does he coach/watch all his QB's in countless practices, nor has he seen Matt for 4 years.

    GET REAL. Cassel might be just as good as the 2001 Brady, and the team surrounding him is a lot better.
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    Rookie QBs start in the NFL just like any other position if its needed. Everyone was calling for Cassel to get cut just a few weeks ago and now everyone is defending him tooth and nail! loool Cassel played like crap all preseason WITH the starters and couldnt muster more than 1 TD against the worst team in the league. Yes OConnel would play better, hes a much better scrambler and his ability to buy time in the pocket is second to none. He would have put up more than 1 TD against the friggen Chiefs.
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    That would be refreshing but some of you are beyond that...

    Did you even see the game Tony? Do you know the OP you're agreeing with is the president of the save Chad Jackson Society???

    Matt Cassel did his job today. That's all he needs to do and all Bill wants his QB to do. Run the offense and don't make costly mental mistakes. And he did it taking second second team reps all week behind the starter. Came in cold and led three scoring drives behind an inconsistent OL and unusually butterfingered veteran receivers...

    That takes balls. Something Matt's most ignorant and obnoxious critics seem to be in short supply of tonight. Repeat after me: "Boy, was I wrong about Cassel..." Nope, ego won't let you do it...

    He played better than half the starters in this league today and you meatheads are scouring the horizen for a better backup or calling for a raw rookie who doesn't know a quarter of the playbook to step in and save your season...

    Pathetic.
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