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    Looking around, I think Gonzalez is the best thing out there. Kitna might make an ok back-up plan for next year too if they want to give O'Connell more time.

    Gonzalez is a solid player, probably a better blocker and would put us back on the board as a 3TE team, which could help our run game. Using a "big guy" who isn't a passing threat as a 3rd TE doesn't hide anything from the opponent.

    I think it's a nice move for him too. He wants to play for a contender and no matter how this year goes, next year we are precisely that.

    So if I had to bet on a last minute trade, I'd say Tony Gonzalez is the best thing out there.

    Worth a third? I really think so.

    Anyway, that's my take. For discussion, if you had to figure Pioli is on the phone today, who do you think he's talking to?

    Word is the Lions will trade just about anyone on their team right now. Any good O-Linemen or CB's over there?

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    Re: If a trade happens, it happens today.

    Although this team needs a quarterback with talent,an OL who does not become the b!tch of the defensive lineman standing in front of him and a CB who actually can avoid playing 10 yards off the receiver, I still think this team makes no moves and just goes along in this season as is
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    Re: If a trade happens, it happens today.

    No trades...just don't see it happening now..
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    Re: If a trade happens, it happens today.

    We won't be making any trades but if we did I'd probably be selling a few guys rather than buying. I'm rooting for the team but this is destined to be a lost season, if someone were paying full value for a Cassel, Maroney, etc, I'm selling. But we've got what we've got and I believe it'll be the same tomorrow.
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    Playing 10 yards off the receiver has nothing to do with the player and everything to do with the system. Maybe we should trade for a new system.
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    LOL - I've actually been impressed with Deltha's catch up speed. I think the way he's being asked to play plus misreads by the safety are making him look bad. For good or ill, I don't think he's much lower in skill than Hobbs.

    *ducks for cover*
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    Re: If a trade happens, it happens today.

    I agree. The Safety help has been the bigger issue this year. I am not a Hobbs fan but he isn't bad with a little help. O'Neal has saved a win for us and has not been that bad either. He has been beat but so has every other meember of that defense. It's the idea of the Safety to play Safety. I think our new DB coach has been no better than the last.
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    Re: If a trade happens, it happens today.

    If the Kittens can't move Kitna, they're apparently planning to put him on IR. He won't be available for several weeks anyways, so I don't see any point in making that trade now.

    I wouldn't gripe too much if it happened, although I might bemoan the move next April. :)
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    Re: If a trade happens, it happens today.

    Wow i am blown away as you called tony a better blocking TE. this is the little known as he never blocks as he is horrible.
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    If a trade happens, it happens today. The trading deadline. Simply genius and psychic.
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    Just making things as simple as possible to be accessible to members such as yourself.

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    Re: If a trade happens, it happens today.

    What is our cap situation?
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    Thanks JS. According to Miguel's cap page we are only $3.9 million under the cap. I'm not sure what they can do with so little cap room. I'm also not sure that the front office believes that they need to give up draft picks right now.
    We could use some help on the O-line and we definately could use some help in our defensive backfield. I just don't know if anyone is available in either position.
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    Re: If a trade happens, it happens today.

    Hardly anything happens during this trade deadline, unlike the baseball and basketball deadlines. Although I would love to see Tony Gonzalez here. I seriously doubt it happens. Plus I think we need more help in the secondary and offensive line.
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    Re: If a trade happens, it happens today.

    I'm wondering if a shuffle in the O-Line and the return of our vacationing - um - rehabilitating linemen might be enough to shape up the line.

    Sure would love to see a #3 TE (despite my earlier thoughts this didn't matter).

    We also need other receivers who can get deep to leave the safety unsure of where to swing. We could trade like, 47 receivers for Gonzalez and LJ and start running 3 TE 2 RB formations on every play, heh. Or maybe get Faulk's passing skills warmed back up and go 3 TE's, 3 RB's... yeah... ;)
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    I think in the past they were able to move the space to next year using some sort of logic if Spann throws for 3000 yards this year he'll get 3.9 million otherwise it will move to the year after.
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    Re: If a trade happens, it happens today.

    ONLY $3.9M under the cap? This is NOT a constraint in signing or trading for players in October.

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    Re: If a trade happens, it happens today.

    Can you elaborate on that? The cap is a bit mysterious...
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    Re: If a trade happens, it happens today.

    That $4M has to only pay for PART of this season, so you could sign say a $7M salary contract this year player
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