Idle thoughts.....and now we get....

[shmessy]

Call me crazy, but I want to see the Ravens. For one, outside of a Pats win nothing gives me more pleasure than seeing the Jets knocked out of the playoffs. On the field I just have a feeling that the Pats are going to give the Ravens a revenge smackdown for the beating they took last year.

Plus as much as we hate the Jets, and would love to beat them down, they are still a tough division rival that can get on a roll.

Remember last season, nobody gave them much of a chance vs San Diego (including me), and they played a great game. Also the Jets sucked going down the stretch then turned it on in the playoffs. I can see that happening again. I don't want to see the Jets.

"On the field I just have a feeling that the Pats are going to give the Ravens a revenge smackdown for the beating they took last year."

Umm, the Pats already had that opportunity when they played the Ravens in Gillette in October - - did you see that game??? The Ravens feel they got jobbed in that game - - just like the regular season game in 2009 (see what happened when they got their chance for revenge in the playoffs that year)- - if you're looking at the "revenge angle" you're looking at it from upside down. Do you REALLY want to play the Ravens instead of the Jets?


So you'd prefer:

1) The Jets not lose their second round pick

2) The team that matches best against us play us next week (Ravens).

3) That the Patriots NOT be the team to apply another beatdown of historic proportions on the team that has been yapping non-stop about the Pats for 12w months now.

Got it.

You saw what the Pats did to the Jets in Gillette. You saw how the Pats were very fortunate (victory by the hair of their chinny chin chins) but beaten up from the Ravens game in Gillette.

You can root for the Pats to face the Ravens instead of the Jets. That's certainly your right.

 

[BSR]

Aaron Schatz(sp) of CHFF was on the radio last week and he said something to the effect that every time a team throws an int their chance of winning goes down 20%, conversely every time a time gets a pick their chance of winning increases by 20%..

FYI, Aaron Schatz is from Football Outsiders and Kerry Byrne is from Cold Hard Football Facts.

 

[Ring 6]

Wow this is a long one. I wont reply to everything

I think this is part of the genius of BBs philosophy of not resting players in games.
I have always felt if you PREPARE seriously for the game and play half or more of it, you done lose your sharpness. But if you take a Colts approach, you can lose your edge.
Practice hard and play week 17. Practice hard as if you were playing round 1 then take the weekend off and come back fired up to prepare for round 2. That turns out to be just as 'safe' as resting starters and keeps them focussed, fresh and sharp.

d. We lost 2 of our 3 best Dlinemen (TWarren and Wright AND an improving replacement starter (RBrace). The Pats have had to sign 3 street FAs the the Roster AFTER the 12th game (EMoore, LCohen, AEllison,) That's unheard of for any playoff team let alone the #1 seed. I worry about our DLine depth being compromised.

Have to be concerned. BUT those 3 have combined to contribute next to nothing for a month or 2. And, we have played more nickel than ever this year, and oftentimes we play 3-3-5 nickel with only 1 DL on the field.
Thirdly, I think our DL has not been stellar this year, but the LB play has been very good (Excellent inside and underrated outside at least outside of the pass rush) and any issues we may see on the DL are ones we have dealt with all the way along.

The reality is that if you consider the items above, you should see what an epic accomplishment its been just to get this far, and should they fail to win it all, this season, i should be considered a huge success overall.

I disagree here. I look at the strengths, and the fact that our weaknesses are less than any other contenders rather than the weaknesses in a vaccuum and say we should be favored. But most of all, with the chance of winning it all, I cant be satisfied with less.

f. Here's the REALITY - The Pats are the team that is playing the best football in the league going into the playoffs. They SHOULD be favored. However,any team they are going to face has a reasonable chance to beat them, if THEY don't play their best./quote]
The same could be said of any SB Champ, although it should be play 'well' not 'their best'.
The best team doesnt have to play the BEST to win, an underdog would.

4.That is what brings me to my next observation. Going into this year, I would have bet the house that the first Pats pick in the upcoming draft was going to be the best 3-4 DE available. But now I wonder. What DE prospect could come into this system an have a bigger impact that a healthy Ty Warren will have, at least short term. Also hasn't the progress made by Brace, Love, Pryor, and even the tardy Deadrick made the immediate need for a DLineman less urgent. And don't forget the sold contribution from GWarren this season.

I think that adds up to DL is acceptable. And that adds up to a later pick of a guy who fits the 2gap 34 and wouldnt need to be picked high. Also would likely need a year to develop.
I would love to see us draft a one gap dominating pass rush interior DL to play in sub packages (those are over half the plays) but other teams overvalue those guys so much we would have to reach real far to get one.

BTW- I know Edelman has disappointed this season after the lofty expectations we had for him after his exceptional rookie year, BUT....after watching his effort in the Fin game, made me think it was more from a lack of opportunities with a healthy Welker and 2 TEs than anything wrong with him, especially when you consider this is STILL only his 2nd year playing the position.

My thoughts in that game were Holy Crap thats the guy who isnt good enough to get on the field on this team.

Believe me I made the move from the DL to OLB in a 4-3 after college and in those rare times we played an "over" D and I lined up over a G it was like entering a foreign country for me.... and I played like the alien I was whenever we did. I DID NOT like it. Even when I made the move from OLB to SS, it too a long time to get comfortable seeing the game from the middle of the field as opposed from one side.

I'd love to hear the details of your playing career.

So here is what I'm thinking and asking. I don't think we need 6 more players in the first 3 rounds. This issue is no longer quantity. The retooling of the roster has been completed. Now it needs fine tuning. Let me know if you agree. Then consider this hypothetical.

BB has decided he agrees with me and is wilingl to move up in this draft and turn his 6 picks into 2 targeted players. Which 2 would you get and how would you do it?

I dont think he will do that. I think he will use most of them, and no doubt move around, possibly even gaining more, because he is drafting long term.
There are many spots on the roster, and you commented on a lot of them, where we are OK but could be better. I think we could make an argument to justify not NEEDEING a top 100 pick at most positions, but equally argue that a top 100 pick would have a great opporntunity to improve us at most spots as well, at least within their first 3 years.

 

[convertedpatsfan]

1) If Jets win tonight, the 3rd rounder comp they give up in the 2011 draft comp for Cromartie becomes a 2nd rounder.

2) If the Jets win tonight, Manning would now be under .500 lifetime (9-10) in the playoffs - thus further squashing the "Manning is Better than Brady" national media drumbeat.

3) Lemme ask you this, WHOM would you rather face next week in Gillette - - the Ravens or the Jets?

Excellent points, no doubt. But hatred is not a rational thing...

As for the draft pick, doesn't really matter since the Jets will just use it to trade up and select a bust. It would be sweet to see Manning go under .500 though.

And I agree that the Jets would be easier to beat than the Ravens. But I wouldn't mind serving up some revenge for last season too.

 

[patfanken]

1) If Jets win tonight, the 3rd rounder comp they give up in the 2011 draft comp for Cromartie becomes a 2nd rounder.

2) If the Jets win tonight, Manning would now be under .500 lifetime (9-10) in the playoffs - thus further squashing the "Manning is Better than Brady" national media drumbeat.

3) Lemme ask you this, WHOM would you rather face next week in Gillette - - the Ravens or the Jets?

It certainly makes sense to root for the Jets today. I'm still pissed that the Titans blew that chance to beat the Colts ensuring a Colts Ravens wildcard game that eliminated at least one of our 2 biggest hurdles. Now I fear we will have to do it the hard way and beat them both.

I am surprised how many "pundits" are picking the Jets today. Though I'd love to see it happen, I can't envision a scenario where it will. We know how tough Indy is at home and what an advantage it is to their defense (pumped in noise). They have been much better both running and defending the run late in the season. PLUS the Jets D has failed as badly as we do in getting pressure on the passer....and Peyton is as good at Brady at defeating the blitz.

Sorry I can't see it, maybe you can give me a scenario.

BTW- I post quite frequently on a Jets site. Call it a guilty pleasure. And I have to tell, I have to admit, there is a part of me that would love to see them crushed just so I won't have to listen to them preening tomorrow. Please forgive me. I know its selfish

 

[Ring 6]

5. Are you as tired as I am constantly hearing how the Ravens "won't be intimidated coming into Gillette", like THAT is the major reason they are considered our most "dangerous" potential opponents. That is just SO MUCH crap.

We have won soooo much over the last 10 years that it is noticeable when anyone beats us.
The Colts are considered a threat because WHEN THEY HAD EXCELLENT TEAMS they beat us INDOORS or in GOOD weather. This years Colts team, in Foxboro, in January is maybe the LEAST likely team to beat us.
The Ravens won here last year, so it creates the perception that they are dangerous, simply because no one else does.

BOTTOM LINE: No one is going to be "intimidated" coming to Gillete. So for that reason, I am no more afraid of the Ravens than any other potential foe.

TOTALLY AGREE with your thinking here.
Too many people who have never played any sport at a comeptitive level end up being part of the media that helps to form the opinion of the general public. Those factions tend to foucs on these bogus 'mental and psychological' aspects, and have a poor understanding of them.
Almost any athlete who rises to the top of their sport and becomes professional does not use the past to create fear in their opponent, or to convince themselves that they are doomed. They use it to understand why they lost, and develop confidence in doing better.
There are common perceptions out there that I find ridiculous, such as:
"They were embarrassed last week so they will be hard to beat this week"
As if a professional athlete is cavalier until he is embarrassed, doesnt react during THAT game, so now will be better and try harder next week.
"They were flat, and quit on us"
While I would agree a bad week of preparation can lead to a bad game, the idea that a football player, in a game that is defined by winning collisions just decides that he isn't motivated today and will let the man across from him physically whip him all day is ridiculous.

I think this thinking is born from the desire of fans to want to find a reason other than the other team was better to rationalize a loss.

6. I think it was back in 2003 the Pats accomplished something I thought was quite remarkable. In the course of winning the superbowl they managed to win 10 games against teams who had won 10 or more games

That is a correct fact, and IMO is one of the reasons they belong in the discussion as the GOAT team.

It got me to thinking about this season, and the fact the Pats have played 7 games against current playoff teams....and are 6-1 In fact they have already beaten 6 of the 11 other playoff teams. I wonder if in the current format any other team has managed to accomplish that?

Great question. I think the most possible would be 8. (the other 5 in your conference and you could actually face the NFC division that got both wild cards in.

8. I am constantly amazed that the Pats keep having all kinds of injuries and have to constantly find guys off the streets, yet the prevailing perception by the national media is that the Pats never have a injury problem, while at the same time other selected teams are constantly given that crutch. It pisses me off, though I pretty sure that BB doesn't mind a bit. It only reinforces his "next man up" mantra

I think i not only emphasized the depth and the next man up, but also the system and philopsophy.
Its obvious in his defensive philosophy. Do your job. 2 gap technique leaves room for error. Don't allow the big play. Bend dont break is OK, etc... But it goes on offense and sts as well, IMO. Any single player is less important to the Patriots than any other team (excluding TFB).
I think that is virtually a proven fact after all of these years of seeing massive amounts of injuries not even slow them down. 03 and 04 were the most injured SB Champs ever, and this year is probably close to those.

OK that's enough for now. I eagerly await your comments....as usual

Your posts are so insightful and thought provoking it is hard not to write volumes in response.

 

[patfanken]

BTW- I forgot to put this in my original post.

Have any of you ever listened to the Rich Eisen podcast. I stumbled on it one day a couple fo weeks ago and have become a instant fan. The first night I found it, he had Brady on, and it was a fascinating conversation. Much more revealing than what we normally get out of Tom.

He normally has a very eclectic group of guests. This week's line up was very typical. Charles Barkley, Urban Meyer, and Steven Soderberg. He's in LA so he always gets someone from the entertainment business like Larry David, etc

Here's the link...enjoy

richeisen.nfl.com

 

[Uncle Rico]

..

I'd love to hear the details of your playing career...

Um, same here. Especially when you say "I made the move from the DL to OLB in a 4-3 after college"

 

[reflexblue]

I'm going with this: If its the Ravens it will be a revenge beat down.

If its the Jests.... it will be closer than Decembers game but the Pats win by at least 10 points.

If its the Colts.....no chance out doors at night in the freezing cold. The Colts lose.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I'm going with this: If its the Ravens it will be a revenge beat down.

If its the Jests.... it will be closer than Decembers game but the Pats win by at least 10 points.

If its the Colts.....no chance out doors at night in the freezing cold. The Colts lose.

Agree 100%. I think the Colts play hard, but the Pats will still prevail.

 

[NYCPatsFan]

Thanks Ken.

You didn't mention this possibility, however low it's probability and hence my question: how do you consider KC as our opponent?

Considering how well the opponents do against us when they have ex-Pats coaches with them (Cleaveland, Green Bay etc), I actually prefer playing the Ravens or Colts (known devils) as against a Crennel coached KC.

I understand that we could also benefit because know MC's habits/tendencies, but my concern is about ex-Pats coaches, not ex-Pats players, on the opposite sidelines.

 

[nabwong]

Don't get me wrong. Anytime you can find an Ed Reed you make the pick and find a way to play him but I'm pretty comfortable saying that interceptions and coverage currently isn't and won't be a problem for the team in the next couple of years.

It's not about the interceptions to me but more of a QB mind game thing. A safety who can understand the offense and play mind games with the QB is invaluable to the whole defense. The biggest factor leading to a turnover is making the QB snap the ball with uncertainty.

I want to add that the op brought a lot of good points. But I don't see us trading 6 picks to move up for 2. We'll stockpile for later year drafts again.

 

[shmessy]

BTW- I post quite frequently on a Jets site. Call it a guilty pleasure. And I have to tell, I have to admit, there is a part of me that would love to see them crushed just so I won't have to listen to them preening tomorrow. Please forgive me. I know its selfish

Ken, I enjoy your work there almost as much as here.......but am glad that you save your best stuff for us!

 

[Ring 6]

It certainly makes sense to root for the Jets today. I'm still pissed that the Titans blew that chance to beat the Colts ensuring a Colts Ravens wildcard game that eliminated at least one of our 2 biggest hurdles. Now I fear we will have to do it the hard way and beat them both.

I am surprised how many "pundits" are picking the Jets today. Though I'd love to see it happen, I can't envision a scenario where it will. We know how tough Indy is at home and what an advantage it is to their defense (pumped in noise). They have been much better both running and defending the run late in the season. PLUS the Jets D has failed as badly as we do in getting pressure on the passer....and Peyton is as good at Brady at defeating the blitz.

Sorry I can't see it, maybe you can give me a scenario.

BTW- I post quite frequently on a Jets site. Call it a guilty pleasure. And I have to tell, I have to admit, there is a part of me that would love to see them crushed just so I won't have to listen to them preening tomorrow. Please forgive me. I know its selfish

Gotta look at this way. No lose situation today, it will be fun to see either lose. Then we get the opportunity (maybe if its Indy) to bounce the other one.
I would love to see KC win, because the Ravens arrogance is 2nd only to the Jets, and they actually have accomplished even less. At least the Jets snuck into an AFCC game.
For those who love the trap game concept, I'm sure no team is more susceptible to looking past an opponent than the Ravens who if they win will face either Pitt or us, and everyone in the world has pencilled them in to win ON THE ROAD this week against a 7-1 home team.

 

[fgssand]

"On the field I just have a feeling that the Pats are going to give the Ravens a revenge smackdown for the beating they took last year."

Umm, the Pats already had that opportunity when they played the Ravens in Gillette in October - - did you see that game??? The Ravens feel they got jobbed in that game - - just like the regular season game in 2009 (see what happened when they got their chance for revenge in the playoffs that year)- - if you're looking at the "revenge angle" you're looking at it from upside down. Do you REALLY want to play the Ravens instead of the Jets?


So you'd prefer:

1) The Jets not lose their second round pick

2) The team that matches best against us play us next week (Ravens).

3) That the Patriots NOT be the team to apply another beatdown of historic proportions on the team that has been yapping non-stop about the Pats for 12w months now.

Got it.

You saw what the Pats did to the Jets in Gillette. You saw how the Pats were very fortunate (victory by the hair of their chinny chin chins) but beaten up from the Ravens game in Gillette.

You can root for the Pats to face the Ravens instead of the Jets. That's certainly your right.

I am with you and I just said so a few posts ago................after further review, what team has beat both the #1 & #2 seed this year?? Plus we totally embarassed them and maybe we don't to face that emotion??
I guess we need to be careful what we wish for?

Just sayin...........

 

[shmessy]

I am with you and I just said so a few posts ago................after further review, what team has beat both the #1 & #2 seed this year?? Plus we totally embarassed them and maybe we don't to face that emotion??
I guess we need to be careful what we wish for?

Just sayin...........

At Gillette, the RyanJets cannot stay on the same field with the Pats.

The CaldwellColts and the HarbaughRavens can.

It is what it is.

 

[gmtaxi27]

"On the field I just have a feeling that the Pats are going to give the Ravens a revenge smackdown for the beating they took last year."

Umm, the Pats already had that opportunity when they played the Ravens in Gillette in October - - did you see that game??? The Ravens feel they got jobbed in that game - - just like the regular season game in 2009 (see what happened when they got their chance for revenge in the playoffs that year)- - if you're looking at the "revenge angle" you're looking at it from upside down. Do you REALLY want to play the Ravens instead of the Jets?


So you'd prefer:

1) The Jets not lose their second round pick

2) The team that matches best against us play us next week (Ravens).

3) That the Patriots NOT be the team to apply another beatdown of historic proportions on the team that has been yapping non-stop about the Pats for 12w months now.

Got it.

You saw what the Pats did to the Jets in Gillette. You saw how the Pats were very fortunate (victory by the hair of their chinny chin chins) but beaten up from the Ravens game in Gillette.

You can root for the Pats to face the Ravens instead of the Jets. That's certainly your right.

First of all I don't give a crap about the Jets 2nd round pick next year. Its about this year. Plus we have 6 picks in the first 3 rounds and the Jets are going to have serious cap issues.

As for this year, yes the Ravens played us tough but you have to admit we are a much better team since then. The Ravens are solid, but they don't scare me. I saw Houston tourch them a few weeks ago, and Cincy should have beat them last week. Palmer was on the 5 yard line and couldn't get the job done.

It amazes me how many times people use a regular season game as a gauge on what is going to happen in the regular season. We are 0-0. In 2007 we *****-smacked the Chargers by 40 points, then they gave us a run for our money in AFC Championship game without LT, a banged up Gates, and Rivers playing with one leg. In 2004 We got smacked by the Steelers, then returned the favor in the AFC Championship.

Sometimes our hatred of the Jets blinds us to fact they are a pretty good team. I can guarantee you that if we play them again, they will give us a tough game. It won't be 45-3. I have been watching football too long to know football doesn't work that way.

If Sanchez gets in a rhythm he can be tough. Remember last year how awful he was down the stretch then turned it on during the playoffs. Who saw them going into San Diego an beating a hot San Diego team that won like 10 in a row. Certainly not I.

Again, I know I am in minority, but I don't want to see the Jets. Trust me they will give us tough game.

 

[VJCPatriot]

Good questions. Here's what I think.

1. BB's message has been clear this week and in some sense its kind of scary. 14-2 earned you a week off....and THAT'S ALL! Right now we are 0-0 and next week we will face a very good team who has ALREADY won one more playoff game that we have. OUCH!

Right and that's why I don't think the Pats will fall into the overconfidence trap even if they end up having to play the Chiefs.

2. Other scary things I've seen this week to ponder.

a. We have 37 players who have never won a playoff game on our 53 man roster. I'm not great at math but that would seem like a vast majority.

b, It has 26 who are in their first or 2nd year in the league.

c, They will have 9 rookies starting or playing significant roles. (Gronk, Hernandez, McCourty, Spikes, Fletcher, Love, Mesko, Cunningham, and now Deadrick....again)

I've heard the inexperience concerns repeated so many times it's like a broken record. The bottom line is they performed when it counted ,in the 4th quarter/OT and on the road, and they are playing their best football of the season late in the season. Less than 10 ppg given up over the past 5 games. It's not a question of talent, it's a question of execution. Don't forget that big Vince is still in there and he brings a lot of leadership to that unit. McCourty meanwhile is playing like a 5 year veteran even though he's a rookie and it always helps to have that stud CB.

d. We lost 2 of our 3 best Dlinemen (TWarren and Wright AND an improving replacement starter (RBrace). The Pats have had to sign 3 street FAs the the Roster AFTER the 12th game (EMoore, LCohen, AEllison,) That's unheard of for any playoff team let alone the #1 seed. I worry about our DLine depth being compromised.

I still don't see you point. Outside of Brace and Wright, the Pats defense have been making do without these guys the whole season. Brace had some rotation snaps but he wasn't the only guy manning that spot. It would be nice to have him but It's not that concerning to me.

e. All this clearly makes all the "Pats invincibility" crap that is NOW coming out of the media seem as ridiculous as some of the "End of the Era" stuff we heard earlier this season. My 60's conspiracy side smells a plot by the media to set the Pats up to fail.

I agree. Clearly the Pats are not invincible. But it's also clear that when they are at their best, they can beat anybody in the league and even embarrass them.

e, So where SHOULD that first pick go.

As for draft needs. DE is still the top need in my opinion. Ty Warren isn't guaranteed to come back 100% and will be 30 once the 2011 season rolls around. The spot across from him is also far from settled. I believe that G. Warren is a stopgap solution. This is a draft where with so many picks the Pats can use a 'luxury' pick to get the best player they believe is there.

Remember how nobody thought that the Pats would pick a CB early because they had Bodden? Well it just goes to show, you never know what you really have till the season starts so just pick GOOD players. They will find ways to contribute or get onto the field. I think just about any position can be upgraded outside of QB.

Now I don't know the players, but Robert Quinn is the first name everyone seems to mention. So here is what I'm proposing. Before the season we had a LOT of holes and question marks. Now....not so much. at least as I see it.

Ah the eternal debate of will BB take an OLB in the first round? It hasn't happened well EVER. But will he do it this year? Hope springs eternal. The problem with selecting a 1st round OLB is that in this defense they are all conversion projects and BB generally expects his 1st round picks to contribute early. Unless Quinn really looks like the reincarnation of LT, I don't see the Pats moving up to get him.

BB has decided he agrees with me and is wilingl to move up in this draft and turn his 6 picks into 2 targeted players. Which 2 would you get and how would you do it?

6 picks for 2 players? Never going to happen in the BB era. It goes against his value based draft philosophy. And just by the numbers you have a lot better chance of players panning out with 6 selections than with 2. I could see a slight move up if somebody good slides. But not the massive kind of moveup that would lose us pick value as you suggest. BB will make moves both UP and DOWN during the draft but not on the drastic level that you're thinking. Nice hearing your thoughts as always Ken.

 

[shmessy]

First of all I don't give a crap about the Jets 2nd round pick next year. Its about this year. Plus we have 6 picks in the first 3 rounds and the Jets are going to have serious cap issues.

As for this year, yes the Ravens played us tough but you have to admit we are a much better team since then. The Ravens are solid, but they don't scare me. I saw Houston tourch them a few weeks ago, and Cincy should have beat them last week. Palmer was on the 5 yard line and couldn't get the job done.

It amazes me how many times people use a regular season game as a gauge on what is going to happen in the regular season. We are 0-0. In 2007 we *****-smacked the Chargers by 40 points, then they gave us a run for our money in AFC Championship game without LT, a banged up Gates, and Rivers playing with one leg. In 2004 We got smacked by the Steelers, then returned the favor in the AFC Championship.

Sometimes our hatred of the Jets blinds us to fact they are a pretty good team. I can guarantee you that if we play them again, they will give us a tough game. It won't be 45-3. I have been watching football too long to know football doesn't work that way.

If Sanchez gets in a rhythm he can be tough. Remember last year how awful he was down the stretch then turned it on during the playoffs. Who saw them going into San Diego an beating a hot San Diego team that won like 10 in a row. Certainly not I.

Again, I know I am in minority, but I don't want to see the Jets. Trust me they will give us tough game.

You and I will have to agree to disagree.

The past 3 games in a row, all at Gillette, the Pats have had big trouble with the Harbaugh Ravens.

The last 2 games at Gillette with the RyanJets the Pats have had blowout laughers.

The Ravens would be beating a so-what Chiefs team (beat ONE playoff team this year - - guess which one).

The Jets would be beating a QB who had every person on this board absolutely hyperventilating and looking for a heart pump before James Sanders rose up sky high with 30 seconds to go in the last November game here.

 

[Ring 6]

First of all I don't give a crap about the Jets 2nd round pick next year. Its about this year. Plus we have 6 picks in the first 3 rounds and the Jets are going to have serious cap issues.

As for this year, yes the Ravens played us tough but you have to admit we are a much better team since then. The Ravens are solid, but they don't scare me. I saw Houston tourch them a few weeks ago, and Cincy should have beat them last week. Palmer was on the 5 yard line and couldn't get the job done.

It amazes me how many times people use a regular season game as a gauge on what is going to happen in the regular season. We are 0-0. In 2007 we *****-smacked the Chargers by 40 points, then they gave us a run for our money in AFC Championship game without LT, a banged up Gates, and Rivers playing with one leg. In 2004 We got smacked by the Steelers, then returned the favor in the AFC Championship.

Actually we handled the Chargers pretty easily in 2007.

Sometimes our hatred of the Jets blinds us to fact they are a pretty good team. I can guarantee you that if we play them again, they will give us a tough game. It won't be 45-3. I have been watching football too long to know football doesn't work that way. [/qote]
Except the Jets just arent that good.

If Sanchez gets in a rhythm he can be tough./quote]
He is the worst QB in the playoffs. So any other one would be tougher

Remember last year how awful he was down the stretch then turned it on during the playoffs. Who saw them going into San Diego an beating a hot San Diego team that won like 10 in a row. Certainly not I.

They beat SD inspite of Sanchez, niot because of.

Again, I know I am in minority, but I don't want to see the Jets. Trust me they will give us tough game.

Any playoff team could give us a tough game, because they are playoff teams, but the Jets would be the easiest opponent we could face. I think you have been listening to Rex Ryan tell you how good the Jets are rather than observing their play.