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  1. patsfan13

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    God what a Moron a guy named Barton intro a bill and holds hearings on thsi calling ti Interstate congress, What a joke.
     
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    We have too many congressmen who have too much time on their hands. We don't need over 500 full time jobs of making new laws.
     
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    here is the article.. good move by the Republicans.. another move to complete obscurity...

    Rep. Joe Barton likens BCS football to 'communism' - Daniel Libit - POLITICO.com

     
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    it really is funny that they've resorted to calling everything they don't like "communism."
     
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    Uh, it's called interstate commerce.......
    and its the justification for Congress to regulate or legislate commerce among the several states based on that thing called the Constitution... I think Congress has bigger fish to fry but somebody needs to set the NCAA straight.......
     
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    I don't understand how Congress got involved in college football:confused: All I heard was something about interstate travel being the reason they got involved. I don't know much about the legal ins and outs of college sports; I remember reading about the tax situation for players in the NFL and what a quagmire it is but what's the reason for Congress to be involved in re-doing college playoffs?.
     
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    I'm amazed that there's not at least agreement that the BCS is silly. This forum is utterly politicized. :(
     
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    More than one meaning to the word and more than one way it can be applied.

    "All are equal, some more than equal" that arises out of it being what he is getting at with his reference.
     
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    not really.
     
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    Three different meanings here:

    communism–noun
    1. a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.
    2. (often initial capital letter) a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party.
    3. (initial capital letter) the principles and practices of the Communist party.


    The second part is what he may be getting at- the self-perpetuating political party being the big conferences or the media or the coaches, it can apply to any one of those groups.


    Another definition:

    Communism n.
    1. A theoretical economic system characterized by the collective ownership of property and by the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members.
    2. Communism
    1. A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.
    2. The Marxist-Leninist version of Communist doctrine that advocates the overthrow of capitalism by the revolution of the proletariat.

    Another:
    Communism
    Com"mu*nism\, n. [F. communisme, fr. commun common.] A scheme of equalizing the social conditions of life; specifically, a scheme which contemplates the abolition of inequalities in the possession of property, as by distributing all wealth equally to all, or by holding all wealth in common for the equal use and advantage of all.

    Note: At different times, and in different countries, various schemes pertaining to socialism in government and the conditions of domestic life, as well as in the distribution of wealth, have been called communism.
     
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    And which one of those applies to the BCS?

    Communism is a form of Socialism, btw. North Korea is called "Democratic," that doesn't mean that it conforms to the definition of democracy in any way.
     
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    To be honest there are far better words to describe the BCS. Monopolistic comes to mind. Or lame, whack, silly, protectionist, misleading, and stupid computers.
     
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    I know it's a form of socialism, just pointing out that there is more than one definition for the word.

    I believe it is either "a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party" part of the first definition or the "A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people."

    The group of people or party that holds all the power being the coaches/media/large conferences. If you aren't a member of the big conferences then you aren't getting into the big games no matter how good of a team you have. A few are let in when they have no choice but otherwise it's a "members only" club.
     
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    Monopolistic is a good word to describe it.
     
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    It's neither a state nor a political party.

    it's neither a government, a state or an economy and it doesn't claim any of those things. It's simply a bad business model.

    I have no defense for the BCS or the NCAA, I completely agree with you. My original post was intended to point out the absurdity of Republicans constantly using the communism word to coerce people into supporting their agenda against a common bogeyman. In this case he chose to ascribe a word describing a system of government to a business. Quite silly.
     
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    Doesn't need to be to falling in line with that style of thinking. It's communism for football down to the unequal equals and governments and class separation.

    NCAA and the conferences themselves are governments(a sports government, but still a government) and it's an economy of its own- tickets, merchandise, TV and radio deals, sponsorships, contributions from fans and alumni...

    It's used wrongly but it does have some baring on what is going on with those folks at the BCS. Ignorant name dropping at its worst but beneath the venom and politics there is some truth in what it is.




    Goes to show how stupid may of us feel the idea is across the board that we aren't even bothering to discuss the possibility of a playoff system and instead are arguing over whether Congress should look into it in the first place and arguing over the definition of a word misused by one of the loudmouths on the committee...
     
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    Ca$h baby. That's why the BCS exists. It's easier to make deals, and line pockets with a bowl system, than it is a straight out playoff. The sooner these colleges go out of business the better.
     
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    I'm sorry, are you advocating that colleges go out of business? This country needs more secondary education, not less.
     

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