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  1. cupofjoe1962

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    Anyone who has read my posts, knows that I hate Obama.

    This is the worst sets of candidates in my lifetime (I am 47).
    I planned to vote for the lesser of 2 evils on election day.

    After the last debate, I lost all respect for McCain.
    His idea to buy up all of the bad loans and adjust the principle made me
    sick. I have a few multi family homes that are not worth what I paid
    a couple years ago. My principle will not get adjusted because I am making
    my payments.

    McCain proved to me Tuesday night, that he is too far left to get my vote.
    McCain is a true RINO (Republican In Name Only).

    So I will write in my candidate for president on election day.
    Pat Buchanon will get my vote.

    Sure it is a waisted vote, but a vote for McCain or Obama will never happen.

    I would not miss election day, because a vote against John Kerry and
    in favor of Question #1 is worth a trip to the poles.
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    Why not consider Bob Barr? Barr seems to be a man of pretty high principle, and if you're not going to vote for McCain, wouldn't it be better to promote a third party? FYI, I knew a woman who worked for JFK. She insisted that JFK was a Republican at heart and, like you, she's a fan of Buchanan.
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    I won't vote for McCain because of Palin and his ideology.

    Tell us more about Barr.
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    i suppose i have more respect for a poster who openly admits his hate, rather than hides behind it... not much, bit at least a little bit.
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    Thanks for the tip....I will look into Bob Barr.

    I like the idea of a third party.
    I voted for Perot in 1992 & 1996.
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    Barr's intriguing. He very libertarian (running on the Libertarian ticket for Pres) and became more so after leaving Congress, where he was best known as one of the toughest members of the Clinton impeachment gang. After leaving Congress he joined the ACLU(!) to represent conservative libertarian viewpoints. He strikes me now as a conservative intellectual, sort of like Gingrich, only more libertarian and not as Machiavellian. Although I don't like him, I do respect him, and think if McCain is clearly going to lose (and I don't think that's yet the case), it would be great to give a boost to the Libertarian Party. A liberal Democratic Party and the Libertarian Party would be better for the country than the current Democratic and Republican parties.
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    I understand peoples' frustration with McCain. You are not alone by any means. There are certainly a lot of imperfections to the man.

    Yet, in the end, not voting for McCain is truly a vote for Obama. No matter who one votes for -- Barr or anyone else on a third party ticket -- if you don't vote for McCain it is a vote for Obama.

    I will take a deep breath, say a prayer for God to guide McCain better, and vote for him because to not do so would be to put America into the peril of Obama's inexperience, his far left viewpoint, and his hidden agenda. Obama has not been forthright about his personal life and views, and this disqualifies him as a contender for the presidency.

    A vote for McCain is the ONLY way to prevent an Obama disaster. If you think the economic mess is bad now, just remember that it was Obama and his party who have voted CONSISTENTLY to PREVENT oversight and regulation of the banking lending mortgage mess. Obama and his party did this, no one else.


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    The current democratic party is liberal. That's it's problem.
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    A vote for Barr throws your vote out the window. McCain is a douche, but a douche I can stomach for the next 4 years.

    Obama will destroy the country I love. I'll vote for the guy who actually has a chance against him. It's a defensive vote for sure though, and not one I'm happy will. I just don't think I can stomach the alternative.
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    #24 Jersey

    I'm voting Libertarian for the second straight election - however that's because CA isn't in play. If I lived in a state where I wasn't disenfranchised by the electoral college, I would hold my nose and vote for McCain.
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    #75 Jersey


    Too late. W. has already 'been there, done that'.
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    #24 Jersey

    Nah, the country may have been damaged while W. was President but he didn't do it - funnily enough the economic issues of today were started in the Carter administration and Obama was involved with the RPA, ACORN, etc. Obama has a history with the long ago beginnings of this mess.
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    LOL. Yeah, history will be much kinder to W.!
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    #24 Jersey

    Maybe it will, maybe it won't. I don't know. But I do know the Republicans, including McCain, tried to pass a bill that would have looked at FM and FM much closer and all the Dems blocked it. Schumer, Dodd, Obama, they're all the culpable parties here. It's too bad the Republicans can't get the point across.
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    #75 Jersey

    And the trillion dollar waste of a war that SAVED Bin Laden's life while turning our surplusses to deficits had nothing to do with our financial ruin.

    Dream on, bunny.
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    #24 Jersey

    Check all the Democrats who authorized the war. You dream on. And that cost is VASTLY overstated; while expensive those numbers are crap because they include a tremendous amount that the military would be paying in peace time.
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    #75 Jersey

    Are you counting the funds that will be necessary to ADEQUATELY (after the Walter Reed fiasco) take care of over 30,000 brave, young wounded veterans of this TRUMPED UP WMD war on Iraq? The care of those 30,000+ physically wounded (not to mention the additional psychologically affected) by this ego-trip of an adventure is what we will be paying in many ways for decades.

    W. Bush entered the Oval Office with an America that stood as an economic and military superpower. It had respect, surplusses, a strong economy and was without any rival.

    Now? Well, I'll ask you, BF, how do YOU see our standing in the world? Has our lead INCREASED in the past 8 years?
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    #24 Jersey

    I don't care what our world standing is.

    As for your assertions about what W. entered with, the surplus wasn't real (but we've argued about that before) and Willy Clinton had cut the military down by a good amount, though it was obviously still strong. He also destroyed our human intelligence complex.

    I wish we hadn't gone to war - but most of the Dems authorized it including Biden. Mr. Smiley wasn't a Senator yet so he didn't have to vote.
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    #75 Jersey

    Well, some of us do.

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