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I know you guys hate when people say it, but Brady lost his passion

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  1. Free_Pacman

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    While at the game today, I could help but thinking this. They showed a clip of Brady before SB36; he was going nuts with Bledsoe before the game- bumping heads and jumping up and down like madmen. Now, sadly, you never see that out of him. I remember back in the day during warmups, Brady used to come out and once he reached the closed endzone, he would start pounding his helmet and throwing fists in the air trying to get the crowd pumped; now when he comes out, he merely meekly claps.

    This year and today in particular, I have seen Brady throw some of the worst INTs of his career. Worst of all, it has nothing to do with mechanics but rather merely not thinking and throwing into double or triple coverage. His head simply is not in the game and, unfortunately, I think the Brady Era, in terms of winning at least, may be over.
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    Faulk was yelling at the offense, who knows where brady was at. Just embarrassing, he looked disinterested throughout. Clapped his hands after running out of the tunnel and that was it.
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    100% agree
    At his press conference today... I really had the feeling that he did not really give a crap
    He seems perfectly happy to go home to Giselle.
    He played one of his worst games EVER as a Patriot and he just did not seem to care
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    I noticed this starting since super bowl 42 which was really bizarre. What about him completely disappearing after his injury in 2008? I said this at the beginning of the season and got blasted for it.
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    Did he lose his passion in 2004 and 2005 and 2007 and 2008 playoffs too? Because I watched him come out of the tunnel this morning before those games, and he wasn't doing what he did in the first Super Bowl.

    In fact, he was yukking it up with Donald Trump and Trump's wife on the sidelines before a huge game.
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    I think so. HE lost his magic and coolness. He did not talk to his teammates.
    And why he lost his connection with Moss? They did so great in 2007.
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    being married to a super model will do that. i mean he's got 3 super bowls, tons of money and a famous wife. why would you care? the richer and more privileged you get, the more you forget about what got you there in the first place.

    with that said, i did see brady upset at himself numerous times this year when he made a bad throw. you got to remember he's playing with a bunch of injuries which we don't know the full extent of.
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    He had a bad game, that's all there is too it. Everyone said Moss was dog faking against Carolina too. People have bad games, it happens. Doesn't mean they don't care anymore. If he didn't, BB wouldn't hesitate to put Hoyer in and make an example of him, even if he is TFB.
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    I just think he's a different person now.

    But I don't question his passion and will to win games

    ... no ... he's still a die hard tough player he always was.

    Brady had a tough year ... a tough 2 years ... perhaps he gets great health in 2010?
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    Is it possible that winning another Super Bowl is beneath him?

    For many reasons, some mentioned above, he is a god among men, condemned to a prison of flesh.

    He's smart enough to emulate what fans expect from a quarterback who wants to win, but perhaps lusting for a trinket like a Super Bowl is for mere mortals.

    JMHO! YMMV! ;)
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    I think he is just maturing into an elder statesman... with that being said, I would like to see him go crazy every once and a while.
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    Funny, I have seen Brady on the sidelines plenty of times this year trying to fire up the troops. Brady is a competitor and has plenty of passion. His passion isn't going to block for him though.

    People need to stop overreacting. Someone please close this stupid thread.
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    Brady's last two seasons starting have been the best of his career.

    Guess he's only passionate if he's doing this before the game...

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    Agreed on Brady losing his passion.

    He doesnt seem to get fired up as much as he used too.

    Welker has seem to take that role.
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    stop interepretting by just watching the sidelines on TV. watch all the pats all accestapes and see how fired up he is. guys comes back from a bad injury and plays with ribs and finger inj and we are ready to run him out of town....this is getting unreal really all the bb resign to brady passion crap.
    how about this - this was a bad team with average players trying to make it work
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    If he was lacking passion, he would not have worked his butt off to get back after the injury last year. He didn't play well today but I don't think it had anything to do with his passion or lack thereof.
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    Said it once already but i'll say it again.

    Brady's lack of emotion/enthusiasm/leadership today was appalling...........
    Almost as much so as his horrible play. He sucked today point blank.
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    This thread is the biggest loser of all threads today.

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    Brady was going nuts when he reached the end zone after coming out for warmups at SB42. That's about the last thing I clearly remember from that game. Was he really just clapping today?
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    I second the suggestion.

    Brady as a kid in 2001 acted differently than the Brady of 2009. He is now expected to carry the weight of the team right now, unlike the Super Bowl years when the defense would carry the day and put him in a position to win. In those years, you didn't seem him angry or frustrated because he wasn't generally angry or frustrated. He also, coming off a major injury, likely has more mental baggage to deal with when things are going badly. Give the guy a break.

    Plus, if you pine away for the Brady of yore, that magical, happy, enthusiastic kid winning Super Bowl MVPs, feel free to look at Brady in the 2005 playoff loss to Denver. He looks and acts much like this Brady acted today.
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    I think the overall problems with teamates, and the locker room made this season a dreadfull one. Both BB and TB look like they were just happy to be done with it and start again next year.

    I think we can easily say the coaching staff lost the team this year...
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    I could have sworn I saw him yelling at and imploring guys on the sideline today. It was early here, but I don't think I imagined it.
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    I saw Faulk do it. He was one of the few who came to play, like usual

    I love Faulk
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    Sorry man, passion isn't measured by that.

    It's measured by head banging, dancing and over-the-top celebration after success. That's how you can tell if a guy has passion.
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    Having a baby and creating a family creates a whole new dynamic for a responsible person. Suddenly, that extra hour of watching film may not be so important. Brady will be fine given a little time to get used to his new situation. Any new dad can relate to the pressures TB must be feeling...right now that new baby and Giselle are first and foremost and football comes 2nd.

    This team has more impt. problems to deal with:
    lack of passion, poor coaching, lack of personnel, failure to communicate...
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    He said in an interview that he disappeared due to the coaching staff asking him to because they thought that he would be a distraction on the sidelines and that the cameras would constantly be panning over to him.
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    So Joe Flacco ... 10 pass attempts is going to the next round of the playoffs.

    Does that mean he has more passion than Tom Brady?

    Eli Manning won a Super Bowl ... imagine that.

    Football is and always will be a game that is won in the trenches.

    We played the trenches badly today ... especially on offense.
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    I hate to sound childish, but you guys are so dumb. He certainly does still have his passion. Just because he acts with class and dignity after a loss you think he doesn't care? Just because he dresses in expensive clothes and has a beautiful and famous wife he has lost his love of the game? If he wore flannel, threw a chair, and threw his offensive line under the bus in his postgame press conference would you be happy?

    He has always maintained a sense of calm in the biggest/toughest moments, that is what has made him so great. I remember watching the "Patriots All Access" of the Carolina game and he was very vocal in encouraging his teammates throughout the game on the sideline. This is something I saw all season.

    I remember in "Moving the Chains", the Brady biography by Charlie Pierce, Charlie Weis remarked on seeing him throw water bottles and scream on the sidelines during the 2005 Indianapolis blowout loss at home, and how that WASN'T the leadership style that Charlie knew. He remarked Brady's greatest strength as a leader has been his ability to rise above his emotions to deliver the best, most focused performance he possibly can. He leads by keeping his cool, trying to be positive, and working harder than anybody else (which he still reportedly does). Should he start bringing a camera to all his workouts to make you guys happy? Should he have BB pick him up at his house everday at 5am to go watch film with news helicopters above, just so a few disappointed nitwits can have his passion reaffirmed?

    Remember LateGate? When Brady showed up to work on time just a few short hourts after his son's birth? No, that's not dedication. I guess you guys would just say that's Brady being a bad father.

    You can't overcome as much as he has (6th rd pick, physicial defincies, 4th string as a rookie, and now the knee injury), be as good as he has been and still is, and not have a passion for the game.
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    I guess the logic of this board is, if a professional athlete gets married they lose passion for their sport.

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    Very much agreed.
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