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    Newsweek: Traditionalists Better Get Used to Polyamory | NewsBusters.org Polyamory? "Many loves" Is that a person who has many hobbies?

    No, it's a person embracing the STD lifestyle.

    Here's the left: giving every deviancy a fancy title and an endorsement. Is it any wonder we're declining rapidly as a civilization? What's next to normalize, bestiality? Stop arresting that man for having sex with the horse! It's perfectly natural.

    I think it all stated with Norman Mailer saying that graffiti was cool in the 1950s.

    What about old-fashioned restraint? You know like that guy in the movie Gran Torino. Smoke, drink, and stay faithful to one woman? Is it too much to ask?

    Now the deviants are the smokers, not the adulterers. I'm lost.
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    Aren't you the same dude who started the thread, "How to Get Laid" with these wise and profound words...

    http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/29/245823-how-get-laid.html

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    "Brave New World", George Orwell. Oh..... that's right, he was a "socialist" who thought the world was going to the right-wing nuts. Well, guess what?? He had it backwards.

    Right is wrong. Up is down. Good is bad. Evil is good. There is "no God". "God is dead". Man is God. Ergo, man is dead.


    HOOEY!!


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    Aren't those the same kind of people who crucified Palins daughter for getting knocked up at 17......:singing:
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    Holing coeds is awesome, though.
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    What people do in their private lives, is their own business. My only point of contention, is that they stand up, and live with whatever consequences their personal choices bring. In the end, it comes down to individual freedoms, and personal accountability.
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    Are you back or still out of country? We expect a full report if your back.
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    Still out of the country. I'm in Rome right now, and won't be back in the states till the middle of August. My hotel room has an internet connection, and I got my laptop. I just got back from a day at the Vatican. Simply amazing. Words can't really describe how incredible that city is. Rome is the last stop with respect to the sight seeing, world traveler portion of our honeymoon. After here, we go to the "paese", or the part of the country where my parents, and my wifes dad grew up. We'll spend a week there for some R&R, the town feast for it's patron saint, and for some visits with our repsective families.

    So far we've been to Greece, Egypt, Turkey, and now Italy. We've seen Rhodes, Corfu, Mykonos, Athens, Naples, Rome, Alexandria, Cairo, Memphis (Egypt), and Ephesus (Kusadasi, Turkey). We've been to the Acropolis, the Pyramids of Giza, the Palace of the Grand Master, the Sistene Chapel, St Peter's Basilica, the Library of Celcius (or St Paul), the House of the Virgin Mary (where the first christians were baptized), the statue of King Ramses II, the Sphynx, the tomb of King Kosar, the fountain of Trevi, the Pantheon, etc, etc, etc... We've seen tons of amazing stuff, and have taken over 1,000 pictures, not counting the couple hundred we probably took today. Tomorrow we hit the Colloseum too. It's like the trip of a lifetime, and I'm so glad we took it.
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    The point is, if you allow anyone to get married you'd better be careful what you wish for. We have the push for the abomination of "marriage" with gay marriage. After that, all bets are off. Polygamy. Gay siblings or cousins. You could even have non gay siblings or cousins as long as they're "fixed" so they can't have kids with genetic issues. We have been fine with traditional marriage for all these years, once you break into other forms of marriage, all best are off.

    F*ck who you like - but keep marriage between a man and a woman.
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    Sounds really excellent, Real World -- I envy your opportunity to do all that sight-seeing -- ..... but, ..... ah.... erm... has your wife seen your sig on patsfans? Or are those photos of her??


    Just curious.


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    Actually, Orwell's were "War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength." Sounds like a Reaganite playbook.

    You can add to that list "Huxley is Orwell," for your own personal use.

    Brave New World was Huxley. 1984 was Orwell. Along with quite a few others for each, but I doubt you've even read these two.

    Orwell's 1984 had an "anti-sex league" that would have had quite the following here. Brave New World was a society in which gratuitous and meaningless sex was encouraged, but motherhood was considered an obscenity (as also in "A Canticle for Liebowitz," something anybody interested in religious organizations and how texts become holy should read.)

    Haven't read much of this thread, but polyamory is a less stable and more difficult, but no less inherently honorable lifestyle than monamory, if that's the equivalent (as polygamy is to monogamy.) It's also practiced by a good number of "monogamous" persons, in particular those who style themselves as "defenders" of monogamy. See Sanford, Mark; Bakker, Jim; etc. etc. etc.

    I have had lovers I did not marry. I have in fact had more than 1 relationship at a time, at times. Please don't get me wrong. I am nobody's idea of a stud muffin nor am I trying to portray myself as such. I am rather someone who has lived in 20th and 21st century Western culture (as do Mr. Sanford et al.) It would seem that we trumpet our opinions and make up fancy words and fancy vows for that matter on all sides, but that what holds sway is that we do what we want to do, rather than what some legislator or moralist thinks we should do.

    Once before, and again now, what I want to do is be married to a woman I love and who loves me.

    I don't cheat on her. "Defenders of marriage" cheat on their wives.

    So what are we really, what we believe in, or what we do?

    PFnV
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    ^ Are you under the impression that Fog has actually read either Orwell or Huxley?
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