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  1. stinkypete

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    This hating never ends. Every day there are 2 anti-Pats "rumors" on the profootballtalk site, Jets fans are comparing us to the 4-12 team from a few years ago. I am dumbfounded.

    So, we lost Seymour for, a liberal estimate, 8 weeks. That leaves Wilfork, Warren and Green as starters, Wright and Smith as backups, and Thomas and Colvin available to play end in exotic looks. Clearly, that is crap. It is obvious that all these players are below average players with limited athletic gifts, and products of Seymour's dominance. Without Seymour, the 9 foot tall, 600 pound monster who runs a 2.7 40 yard dash, our defensive line is hopeless.

    We also lost Harrison for 4 games. Our defensive backfield of Samuel, Hobbs, Wilson, Sanders, Gay and Meriweather is now dead in the water. Never mind stopping the Colts, we'd be lucky if we give up less than 400 passing yards to the Vikings.

    The average age of our linebackers is apparently 57.

    Also, I read recently that Randy Moss singlehandedly put 16 western Mass Wendy's restaurants out of business, packing on over 49 pounds since his hamstring injury. He was going to be cut, until he threatened to run over Bob Kraft with his car if he is released.



    Seriously, I have never seen so much negative press over one team in 4 days in my life. We lose one guy for 6 games to injury, and another for 4 games to suspension, and suddenly the whole team sucks.

    Does America hate the Patriots that bad?
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    BULLSEYE!!!
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    FWIW-what's really impressed me most about the Pats is that frankly, their ENTIRE 53 man roster just wants to go out and PLAY-simple as that.

    Heck-Belichick could amass a bunch of scrubs, but if they have this same mentality, they too could win a few SBs.

    Look at the talent-laden Giants. Why do they always crash and burn at the end? B/c of Coughlin? No-quite simply, they're a bunch of whiners and loud-mouths who do nothing but bicker and fight amongst each other.
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    You lost your most dominate guy on the front end of the defense(for who knows how long) and your best guy on the back end for 1/4 of the season,now I know that this would effect the mere mortal teams in the NFL but not the Patriots...:rolleyes:
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    Welcome to the world of a winning franchise. Being a Yankee fan, I have a pretty good idea for how you feel, lol.
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    This is what pisses America off about SOME Pats fans plain and simple,the idea that just because you have Belichek you could throw "any scrubs out there" and win a few SB's.
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    But you're too stupid to realize that Seymour and Harrison have missed the stretch run for us in Super Bowl seasons, and Rodney did last year.
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    No, he's just not a Pats fan so he doesnt follow as closely as you do.
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    You were a better team in those years. As time passes, harder to absorb those losses. Not saying the back ups won't perform, but in the SB years, those back ups did, time for these guys to step up, but until they do, what would you expect?
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    God, seriously, you're ALL being lame. The frantic Chicken Little Pats Fans and the Delusional Mongoloid jet fans. Take a breath. Who CARES? Great teams overcome this crap - who gives a crap about rumors?
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    You a Jets fan? FWIW-Dallas happened to be the most healthiest team in the league when Parcells(one of your previous coaches, that is) during his 4 years there-but somehow, he only managed a 34-32 record(including 0-2 in the playoffs).

    Just FYI.
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    Couldn't agree more.
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    With the emergence of Wilfork and Warren (who I think will have a monster year), I think our line will be every bit as good as it has been in past years. Green is no slouch either. Given the improvement of the other guys, I beleive our line will be fine. When a healthy Sey gets in there, it will be all that much better.

    The line is a group, so while the loss of Sey has an impact, the improved play of the other two guys can offset that, and as I said Green is more then capable. In fact, he'd start on many other teams.

    As for Harrison, he's been missing for large gaps of time over the last few years, and we've adapted. We will now too.
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    Other than the Moss stuff, what have they posted about that isn't hot topics in the NFL. Both Harrison being suspended and an All Pro like Seymour starting the year on the PUP are hot topic issues. With hot topics like that, there are going to be a lot of rumors going around. Remember just a month ago where PFT posted five or six Vick rumors a day?

    If you count the rumors over the past two days, there are far more Giants rumors posted on there than Patriots.

    I'm sorry, but it is just the cycle. Right now the hottest rumors are about the Patriots and Giants. Next week it will be another team. That is how PFT works. Always have.
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    Clearly it all changed for us in 4 days. :confused:

    I think its just media hyperbole.

    Turns out we probably weren't as good as the national pundits said we were a few weeks ago, and we aren't as bad as they think we might be now.

    They just need to write about something.

    I guess we'll just have to ACTUALLY PLAY some football to find out!:eek:
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    Yes, please. The sooner the better.
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    Which year did this these "stretch runs" occur,because from 01-04 Seymour missed 3 games,and in 05 when the Pats went 10-6 and were eliminated after the wild card round he missed 4 games.Last year he played in all the games including playoffs from what I can see.Harrison is a lot easier to cover for with him being safety,but a dominate Dlineman is hard to come by especially with Seymour being one of the best in the game.

    Enlighten me oh great one,and BTW I am not a Jets fan.
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    I believe Seymour missed the Colts and Pitt playoff games in '04-and they played rock solid D in both.
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    While no one can replace a HOF DL like Seymour, Jarvis Green does a helluva good job at it, and has done so multiple times. It changes things, yes, WORSENS them, true, but our DL hasn't been exposed too badly, I don't think, EVER, with Seymour out. That is a testament to Jarvis himself, and to the coaches and a scheme that can succeed in multiple ways.

    Does this mean the D won't suffer? Of course not. But there's ample evidence that we needn't panic NO MATTER WHAT. I feel in very capable hands, especially defensively.
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    Look a couple posts up. Seymour was out for the Colt and Steeler games in the playoffs (04), in which the Pats won handily.
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    Just for the fun of it, are you by chance a Ravens fan?
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    I mean didn't anyone else want to know this? Its like a puzzle, kind of. 52=Ray Lewis, decleetzu=ray laying big hits. Well this is just going to bother me now. ;)
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    That was actually Vince Wilfork.
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    Considering it's the week before the start of the season, teams made their roster cuts, Harrison was suspended, Samuel signed, Jets interviewed three of our players, Seymour was PuP'd, Childress wasn't into collusion...it was a pretty busy week. Those are the stories that we now about for sure...and the lead up to those sure fire stories are rumors. It's just the way it happens...it's been a busy week in Pats land.

    Can you think of really any other team with more to talk about...just between Samuel, Harrison and Seymour, that news pretty much smokes out any other team.
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    Is it Sunday yet?
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    Sorry Jets fans, but with your offensive line, the Patriots could field Appalachian State's defensive ends and still have Pennington looking like a headless chicken. I'm a little concerned about the defensive backfield, but when hasn't that been the case? In 2003, the Patriots at one point had 11 starters injured for a significant midseason stretch. I forget how that season ended but I think it was pretty good.

    The sky is blue still folks. We haven't had Sey in any of our preseason games and our front seven has painfully dominated far better offensive lines than yours, Jets fans. See ya Sunday!!!
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    ain't it great? order has been restored to the universe after nearly four months of pundits and prognosticators falling all over themselves to praise us and practically hand the Lombardi to us. now if we could only get some of those guys to retract their predictions and put us at 8--8 or 9--7 instead of 14--2, i would start to relax.

    time for some good old-fashioned, smash-mouth, no respect, how-dare-you-dis-us Patriots football. To he!! with the lot of them! On to Phoenix!
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    Did you happen to catch the 2001 season??

    That was a T_E_A_M all the way and that is exactly what the Patriots are all about.

    BB knows how to take his'n and beat your'n no matter where the talent levels are at.

    We love being hated and we love trouncing Jets asses.
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    Bravo!

    That was an excellent recap, but I think you forgot to mention how we are playing musical punters. We are now stuck with "Axe Boy" Hanson after we cut baugher who went on to beat the tar out of his dad.

    Furthermore, you can't blame Harrison for cheating when we have a coach who steals other guy's wives and tries to bribe other team's clown-looking coaches... an incident that may land Belichick in prison or at the very least cost us some draft picks as penalty.

    Lastly, there is the matter of the naked pictures of BB in compromising situations that Vinny is sure to produce to the media now that they cut the old goat in order to keep the upstart Gutierez. You think the last 4 media days were bad?

    Well, there's always next year!
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    #87 Jersey

    for what its worth

    The most dominant DL player for us last year was Warren - hands down. Seymour was playing hurt all year and wasn't nearly as effective as he had been in the past.

    Rodney was missing for the playoff game with the Jets and that worked out pretty well - for us.. Even Don Banks from CNNSI who published a "Pats are suddenly vulnerable" article acknowledged on FSN NEW ENGLAND Sports Tonight show last night that Sanders is barely any drop off from Rodney with the way they are both playing.

    Wilfork is looking like a beast and appears to be taking his game up a notch.

    One other barometer - my FFL draft had Brady, Maroney, Moss, Stallworth, Gostowski and the Pats DST taken before ANY of the Jets players were taken. Keep in mind this is in Northern VA, not New England, and I only took Brady (2nd round) and Welker (10th round.) That's a pretty good indication of the talent level difference between us and the Jets. BTW - the guys in my league thought I was nuts to pick Welker and many said "who?" I believe they'll see the value as the season evolves.

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