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  1. RoughingthePasser

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    The hurry-up offense seems to work the best for us. We're built and conditioned to do it and I think we can wear down most defenses with it. I remember a game against Denver back around '06 when one of the Broncos linebackers blew chunks on the field because Tom directed the no huddle march down the field. We're a quick offense. Important to stick to the run and the no huddle won't work best in every situation-but I've noticed that since Tom started at QB- our offense has handled it well.
    I'm more defense oriented but I wanted to get opinions or any input from my fellow PatFans.
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    I wouldn't get too used to the hurry up offense. The Pats will use it at times, but I doubt we will see it as much as we saw last night. The Pats were using the heat to their advantage last night.
     
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    Remember the Pats' second half offensive struggles the last two seasons? Many were calling for more hurry-up as a remedy.
     
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    I don't think you can rely on the hurry-up to be the bread and butter of your offense. Eventually it will be schemed against and figured out.

    HOWEVER, I think having it as one weapon in your arsenal is fantastic. I think Brady has the leeway to go hurry-up when he sees something he likes and can take advantage of. In that case, it's another item in an already dizzyingly complex offense that the defense has to prepare for.
     
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    The key benefit of running the hurryup is to get the personnel matchup advantages you want. If no defense has the personnel to counter this matchup advantage then the Pats should continue to run it. They certainly have the QB to make it work.
     
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    Like Brady said last night, it's a weapon but it requires a level of execution that can at times be daunting even for this offense and you can end up toasting yourself in the process of attempting to fry a D. Last night everyone was executing at least 95 of the time.

    Scary what this team is equipped to do though if everyone remains focused.

    Patriots’ up-tempo offense does in Dolphins – Audibles
     
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    As others have mentioned, the Pats tried the hurry-up against the Jets in the playoffs.

    However, as you know, the hurry-up is a very dangerous offense, because it seems to cause a lot of mysterious opponent injuries. :cool:
     
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    I think the hurry up is a great weapon but this idea that we should run it more or that in the past we didnt run it enough is laughable to me. Like just changing the pace is a cure all or perfect cover up.

    I think the hurry up is very much a down hill type thing when you get it going it keeps going but it isnt always that easy to get it going and when you cant it is like going up a steep mountain.

    I know this sounds like a cliche but I think yuo guys get what I mean.
     
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    It's a good option, but it also takes away some rest from your defense. So it's one of those risky strategies where if it works, great. If it doesn't, you've just given your D about 90 seconds to rest before going back out there.
     
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    I like it too, and I guess if we're the better offensive team it's great. One bad consequence, though, is that it also increases the time the defense is on the field and gives your opponent more chances to score.

    The Dolphins had 13 drives and 70 plays and more time of possession, which if you think about it is pretty weird considering the Patriots had nearly 700 yards in offense.

    Anything that gets more points on the board is better, but in a hurry up, you do incrementally increase the number of points it will likely take to win by giving your opponent more possession. And nothing is worse than a 3 and out when you're in the hurry up with a lead. The possession the Patriots had up by two scores with about 8 minutes left was a good example. Points there put the game away. But so does a 5 minute drive and punt.

    At the end of the day the goal is to get more points than your opponent, and you have to suit your game to your team's strengths. But I guess I also see the benefit in 8 minute, defense busting TD drives. I think our offense is sufficiently better that the team is likely to prevail in a game with 8 possessions each, whereas a game with 14 possessions each can have funny things happen.
     
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    Watching Cameron Wake on the sidelines with that oxygen mask on and laying on his knees between snaps was pretty awesome though.
     
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    good points guys....i see the offense becoming better as the year goes on .
     
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    The Jets D has no answer for a hurry-up offense

    That's not just based on tonight either. The previous Patriots game, and more pretty much every game against the Colts -- even the playoff loss (where Peyton had little trouble passing).

    Why?

    Cause the Jets are built on looking at the Offensive Formation, and figuring out where the weaknesses are in the formation so they can dial up those overload blitzes. Those are calls made at the LOS - often signaled in by Rex - where the D will change alignments while the QB is still under center. The QB has a certain play called, and suddenly the D shifts into a front that will make the called play, out of that formation, a liability. But, when Brady or Peyton can keep the tempo up, the Jets really cannot make those adjustment. The result? Vanilla coverage. No blitz. They've always struggled to rush the QB with just a standard 4-man-rush. That's why they can get such great production out of seemingly anyone they plug in -- even guys like Maybin. Take away Rex's calls, and suddenly their D looks like it has plenty of holes/mismatches in personnel.
     
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    Re: The Jets D has no answer for a hurry-up offense

    Just for reference, all of Peyton's games against the Jets. If you remember, the Colts were shredding the Jets on their way to 15-0, but then Polian decided to pull the starters and Painter blew the game. The second game was in the playoffs where Peyton embarrassed them with the no huddle. The playoff rematch, the Jets won by playing 6 in the box which is a automatic run call in the Colts O -- and they couldn't run. They did this because they knew they couldn't stop the pass.

    CMP ATT YDS CMP% AVG LNG TD INT RAT

    14 21 192 66.7 9.14 29 0 0 95.7

    26 39 377 66.7 9.67 46 3 0 123.6

    18 26 225 69.2 8.65 57 1 0 108.7
     
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    Re: The Jets D has no answer for a hurry-up offense

    I think this was the key. Hurry up stopped the Jets from all their substitutions. It also gave Brady the controls and I trust Brady more than BOB when it comes to play calls. The offense wasn't rolling until they went to hurry up.
     
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    Re: The Jets D has no answer for a hurry-up offense

    So the Pats have given the league the blueprint to beat the Jets defense. Funny since the Jets supposably gave the blueprint to beat the Pats' offense last year. :D

    I do agree. The Jets have a major weakness against the hurry-up offense. I'm surprised the Pats haven't used this every time vs. the Jets. You can't run it all game (although Peyton Manning may disagree), but they should have ran it more in the playoffs.
     
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    Re: The Jets D has no answer for a hurry-up offense

    All teams can run no huddle. It helps when you can run it well just like any other set of plays...
     
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    I wasn't suggesting playing the hurry-up 100% of the time-but this is a tempo where Tom kills defenses...actually the whole offense does.I look back at tapes from '01 until present and it was the same thing. One game (can't remember which one) has a Denver Bronco LB vomiting on the field.

    "Practice execution equals reality"-BB

    Looks like our defense prepared hard all week by the way they played too.


    Good to see Chad Johnson make a play hopefully he can make some more.
     
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    Hernandez is the key to the hurry up.

    He is the matchup X factor.

    If he's now healthy, we will probably see it more.
     
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