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Human Rights Report: U.S. Interrogators Killed 98

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  1. Holy Diver

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    In all, 98 detainees have died while in US hands. Thirty-four homicides have been identified, with at least eight detainees — and as many as 12 — having been tortured to death, according to a 2006 Human Rights First report that underwrites the researcher’s posting. The causes of 48 more deaths remain uncertain.

    Okay Hannity and the torture appologists.....


    we have gone from We don't torture - to a few bad apples - to 3 times - to 184 times in 6 months to one man - to nobody died - NOW to


    a dozen have been tortured to DEATH?






    Human Rights First | Us Law End Torture Now | Command's Responsibility: Detainee Deaths in U.S. Custody in Iraq and Afghanistan






    WTF?
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    apple strudel Banned

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    But what's a little water and cute little Disney caterpillars to a Muslim?
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    #12 Jersey

    If this is true it wasn't from false walls, sleep deprivation, caterpillars or water boarding with physicians present. If people were tortured to death or murdered then those responsible should be held accountable.
  4. Holy Diver

    Holy Diver Rookie

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    Crazy, huh?


    It gets sicker too.....reading the report....


    “Nagem Sadoon Hatab… a 52-year-old Iraqi, was killed while in U.S. custody at a holding camp close to Nasiriyah,” the group wrote. “Although a U.S. Army medical examiner found that Hatab had died of strangulation, the evidence that would have been required to secure accountability for his death – Hatab’s body – was rendered unusable in court. Hatab’s internal organs were left exposed on an airport tarmac for hours; in the blistering Baghdad heat, the organs were destroyed; the throat bone that would have supported the Army medical examiner’s findings of strangulation was never found.”



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    “Abed Hamed Mowhoush [was] a former Iraqi general beaten over days by U.S. Army, CIA and other non-military forces, stuffed into a sleeping bag, wrapped with electrical cord, and suffocated to death,” Human Rights First writes. “In the recently concluded trial of a low-level military officer charged in Mowhoush’s death, the officer received a written reprimand, a fine, and 60 days with his movements limited to his work, home, and church.”




    have we become what we are attempting to fight?
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    Just thought this might add some valuable content to the thread...


    The Ballad of the Bleeding Heart Liberal
    My life has been a horror,
    since I took up the liberal's art.
    But now I don't feel so guilty
    (It's great to be a "bleeding heart").

    The secret of this art is easy:
    just be nice to everyone.
    Even to murderers and molesters
    (It doesn't matter what they've done).

    Every guilt was on my shoulders;
    now listen to my tale:
    I'm responsible for all evil
    (I'm white, middle-class, and male).

    Villains robbed my house once,
    and my family they did assault.
    But this was due to society's ills
    (I knew it was not their fault).

    My daughter tried to stop them;
    they beat her with boot and fist.
    I did not try to save her
    (I'm a "born-again" pacifist).

    Their actions I could not judge;
    other people, I cannot condemn.
    Even though my wife was "graped"
    (there was a "bunch" of them).

    It was the same some years before,
    fighting Japs in jungle mud.
    I never shot a-one of them
    (couldn't stand to see yellow blood).

    In the future, when the Asian hordes
    follow their brothers' call:
    They'll outnumber Aussies ten to one
    ("We're all human", after all).

    My eldest son now condemns me,
    and tells me I'm a "nong",
    because I sold my country to the Japs
    (now, how could that be wrong?).

    My son thinks I'm an idiot,
    and he says I've got no hope.
    But I call myself a "liberal"
    (perhaps it should be "dope"?).

    The Ballad of the Bleeding-Heart Liberal, 1995


    2. bleeding-heart liberal
    A democrat or political left-winger(2 different things) who tends to be subjective in their political views. Political subjectiveness is ok to some degree, but I think that some people tend to get carried away or be unrealistic. These types are somewhat of sore to American society, but on the other hand help balance out crazy redneck or bureaucrat conservatives. Both could be done without in the end because of their serious bias on everything that ever happens.

    There are few types of people who fall into this group:
    1.Activists-the troublemakers who are
    violent and crazy but try to cover up by pretending that their motives are moral.

    2:Stoners-people who have taken a lot of time to think through where they stand politically, and realize that violence is an ineffective way to reach their goal, even if the establishment is refusing to listen to them. These people think Bush is a terrible president, and give logical reasons.

    3:Metalheads-people who have taken a lot of time to think through where they stand politically, but are too carefree to do anything more than write music about it. Also, they are pessimistic and feel they will never change anything. This group also has logical reasons for hating Bush, such as the fact that the only Iraqis killed by Sadam were rebels who were trying to assassinate HIM.

    4.Nobodies-people who really have none of their own views, but will make themselves think they believe in anything that is popular. Once they have a cause in mind, they will gather any evidence, without even thinking through it enough to realize it doesnt make any real sense. This group is very anti-Bush, but cannot give logical reasons why he is a bad president, such as the fact that he has a Texas accent(No ****. How is that a problem?)

    Bleeding-heart liberal, or bleeding ass liberal is usually used by right-wing conservatives to refer to any and all democrats or liberals.
    Middle-roaders like me use it for any person who thinks only about the benifit of individuals rather than society as a whole. In other words the kind of person who believes that we must not leave anyone behind, even if helping them would be a drag one the whole group. Someone who not only believes that, but will not waver on it no matter what, that is a bleeding heart-liberal.
    These examples are simplified because a realistic example would take to long to think of and type. Enjoy.

    Bussinessman A: We just bought out that from Georgia, so we can finally expand our bussiness to the rest of the US.
    Bussinessman B: We still got to watch out, before we know it the bleeding-heart liberals will be on our ass calling us a monopoly. You saw what happened with Bell Atlantic.

    Redneck: That rabbit threatened ta kill my family, and the only thing keepin` me from shootin` the li`l terrorist is them damn bleedin` heart liberals.

    (note that not all rednecks are crazy like that.)
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    apple strudel Banned

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    We're waiting.
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    And if humanrights.org is wrong, they should be tortured to death.
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    Wildo7 Totally Full of It

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    I think that's Rudyard Kipling....
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    Holy Diver Rookie

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    And 'some' wonder why people hate us......
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    Wildo7 Totally Full of It

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    I'm willing to bet you any amount of money you want that they aren't. This isn't new information.
  11. atomdomb

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    for that you deserve a classic lol

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  12. Holy Diver

    Holy Diver Rookie

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    yeah...torutre is FUKCING HILARIOUS!



    laugh it up...
  13. Wildo7

    Wildo7 Totally Full of It

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    Look at his handle, if you were expecting a person expecting to be taken seriously behind that name you were delusional.
    Last edited: May 7, 2009
  14. atomdomb

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    [​IMG]

    i prefer to call it retribution.
  15. Holy Diver

    Holy Diver Rookie

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    you should undrerstand what you call 'retribution'.....sane people call 'terrorism'
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    apple strudel Banned

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    He has no idea what he's talking about - he presents no facts and trolls using other people's images.

    We rounded Iraqis into prisons regardless of who they were, so of course we wound up torturing civilians that we could not even seek revenge against because they had done nothing to us. But so long as they're brown-skinned and abstract it's OK.
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    you should understand what you call 'terrorism'
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    tanked_as_usual Banned

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    do you actually take any people seriously in here?
  19. Holy Diver

    Holy Diver Rookie

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    Spreading fear into a population by criminal acts of violence....


    thats just the way I define it....

    here is the way the dictionary defines it...


    ter⋅ror⋅ism   /ˈtɛrəˌrɪzəm/ [ter-uh-riz-uhm]
    –noun
    1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes.
    2. the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
    3. a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.



    torturing people to death sounds like its terrorism, by my definition, or the one in the dictionary.
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    Wildo7 Totally Full of It

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    Yes. .................

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