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Hugo Chavez shuts down all private radio and TV in Venezuela

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  1. Fogbuster

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    Whoever said the days of tin-pot dictators was over in Latin America??? They are certainly alive and well in Venezuela, as Hoooogo "Chavy" Chavez shuts down all radio and TV that has ever criticized his actions. Saying, "they are terrorists" (last paragraph of the report), Chavez has turned them all off.

    No, this is not a report from Drudge, or the National Review, or Town Hall. This is from CNN:

    [size=+4]Dozens of radio stations shut down in Venezuela[/size]

    (CNN) -- At least 34 private radio stations in Venezuela were closed indefinitely Friday, and 206 more were at risk of being shut down, a government official said.

    The stations were closed for various reasons, including expired permits and operation by unauthorized personnel, said Diosdado Cabello, minister of Public Works and Housing.

    "Freedom of expression is not the most sacred freedom," Cabello was quoted as saying by CNN affiliate Globovision.



    Dozens of radio stations shut down in Venezuela - CNN.com



    Read it and weep, all you First Amendment lovers. A dark cloud has fallen even heavier in the Americas.


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    cool... maybe we can do to them what we did to Chile.
     
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    So, you *like* left-wing dictatorships then? Not cool.



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    Did I f'ing SAY that?

    Regardless, just because I don't like dictators of any kind, or am frustrated that our corporations are stymied from raping another Latin American nation, I'm not prepared to support a RW overthrow and/or the violent deaths of left-leaning nationals.

    People with similar thoughts on world trade as yourself did exactly that in Chile.
     
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    Who's talking about Chile, Press f'ing Coverage??? The subject is Chavez and his Castro-inspired intent to model Venezuela after that utterly failed Cuban regime of dictatorship, no freedom of speech, no democracy, no industry, no nothing; oh, they have "free health care". Castro's Cuba still has 1950s Fords and Chevys as common modes of transport because Fidel wanted to "stick it" to the "evil Yanquis". Dumb ass. Murdered tens of thousands, too.

    You get what you pay for. Always have, always will.

    Dictatorship = Abject misery and poverty for all .... except the dictators



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    What kind of industry and modern technology should Cuba have obtained with the West blocking their trade ambitions?

    Regardless, I'm talking about Chile. How is that situation much different from the parallel you're trying to draw between Cuba and Venezuela?

    The U.S. meddles in South American and Central American business... Always have, even to the point of killing their leaders. ... People like you are quite OK with that form of foreign policy, just like you'd all be giddy over an invasion of Venezuela. And probably would have gotten it if McCain won.
     
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    1. Yeah, the U.S. (and other wise Western nations) blocked trade with Cuba because Castro took over Cuba in a very bloody revolution, then installed himself as dictator for life!!! . Duh.

    So Castro turned to his big brother, the Soviets, for life-support, which they gave him. Until they threw off their failed Marxist ideology. And still Cuba sinks like a stone, with no infrastructure, no economy, no nothing except 1955 Chevys held together with coat hangers.

    2. Yup, Chile has nothing, nada, zilch to do with this thread.

    3. But, since you bring it up, which is worse: killing off a few dictators or allowing those dictators to kill off millions -- literally -- while driving their countries into the ground, with no economies at all, nothing of value produced that anyone wants???? This is not a trick question. I'm serious. We all know how Castro has stayed in power, and Kim Ilsung/Kim Jongil, and how Chavez is now doing it: stifle/kill off all competing ideas, all competitors. "Democracy"??? Horse crap. Dictatorship. Pure and simple.

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    It's interesting that you'll ignore Chile and pretend it has nothing to do with this thread, yet you'll punt to Kim Ilsung/Kim Jongil.

    You recognize the scenarios that you choose to, and ignore the others. How convenient.

    This isn't a "which is worse" argument. It's about the U.S. minding it's business with ALL nations, not just some of them that don't have natural resources for us to pilfer.
     
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    As usual, corporate media is sticking up for other corporate media and espousing the anti-Chavez propaganda that's so popular among idiots like the OP. The same entities that orchestrate coups to violently overthrow democratically elected governments. And yet Fog (who ironically quotes Orwell from time to time) has the audacity to label Chavez a dictator for returning the media to the communities.

    Community Media: The Thriving Voice of the Venezuelan People | venezuelanalysis.com

     
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    Chile has *nothing* to do with this thread but if you insist on bringing it into the discussion then I will have to bring in North Korea, Zimbabwe, and Zelaya's failed attempt to hijack Honduras. Dictators suck. Those who impose their brand of rule, no matter how egalitarian or "enlightened" their ideology is (they say), are murderous thugs who need to be stopped. One way or the other. If they don't go peacefully, then they go as Che did. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

    "Pilfer". What a crock. Cuba had a thriving economy, the highest standard of living in all of Latin America in the 1950s. Unfortunately they had a right-wing dictator in Batista who took a lot for himself, but he didn't oppress others who wanted to work and be productive; he encouraged that. So replacing a right-winger who at least wanted to be friendly with the U.S. with a left-winger who gets his rocks off by bashing the U.S. has produced exactly WHAT for Cuba in the past 50 years???? Nothing, nada, zilch. They still drive 1950s American cars, and cannot even set up a public transportation system because they live in an ideological vacuum. Talk about living "stupidly". That's Castroville. Now Chavy Chavez wants to emulate that. To hell with that. And Zelaya, too.

    You're supposed to be a "press coverage" guy; does shutting down the press as Chavez has done give you a warm fuzzy???? It's horse crap. Communism is NOT going to win; forced "socialism" is NOT going to win; the only thing that's going to win is freedom of expression and constructive ideas and productivity with a reward for that productivity. Human nature cannot be changed. People want -- and deserve -- a reward for their efforts. And they will have it.



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    Continued.....

     
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    Sources...........

     
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    http://www.zmag.org/znet/viewArticle/22091

     
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    So what are you trying to say, Wildo??




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    Um, that you're a dumbass?
     
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    Oh, go fu_k yourself, crapforbrains.

    Chavez is going down. He's a dictator and ALL dictators have seen their last days. You can drag it out and let some more millions die, but their blood will be on YOUR hands, stupidly. The people of the world are dead tired of dictators. End of story.



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    Which is the precise reason your party of choice lost the last election...

    anyhow, clearly you've learned nothing from your recent vacation from here.

    Fog's weekly meltdown to commence in 10, ... 9,... 8,...
     
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    Thanks for proving my point. You (and the corporate media) think that because most people won't bother to actually look into is and research it for themselves that you can get away with just making stuff up. If Venezuela succeeds then American elites lose their footing, and they know that, so let the slander begin. Use the words "Chavez" and "Dictator" in the same sentence enough times and people will start associating the two. The fact is that Chavez is within his constitutional rights to do what he is doing and is a democratically elected President. Everything else you write is complete garbage, but there's not much point in arguing with you since you'll just deflect, shift the goal posts, tell me I'm smoking pot, or any other number of tired, idiotic Fog tactics.

    You have no facts on your side and neither does the corporate media. This faux outrage against Chavez is going to occur against any leftist president as long as those that bring us our news are free market giants. It's basic common sense, and if you had any you'd think for yourself and find out what the real story is.

    "Dictators suck" is about the only thing you've written that I agree with, but it doesn't apply here, and it certainly isn't profound or controversial.
     
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    Hollywood liberals love that Chavez, so do most left wing Bush Haters.

    Stupid Obama likes him too.
     
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    People get conned every day of the week, unfortunately. Then, when the white hats drop the ball, the black hats pick it up. Scenario old as dirt. Take the LONG view; you'll do much, much better in life.

    As for "melt-downs".... oh, I forgot: you wrote the book on ad hom; though you have cleaned up your act in the past year or so. Bravo for you. But you've still got a ways to go.

    Peace.

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