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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.F.B.N. said:If you have a team of starters in a draft with enough UPSIDE players then by all means trade down is the way to go.
However, and i suspected this last year and I hope i am wrong...how many teams are willing to trade with us??? Belichick moved around very little last year and that was puzzling...I don't think any teams trust us enough anymore...can you blame them???
Box_O_Rocks said:Dang! I'm glad you clarified that, Down has been one of our best and I'd hate to lose someone like him..
F.B.N. said:If you have a team of starters in a draft with enough UPSIDE players then by all means trade down is the way to go.
However, and i suspected this last year and I hope i am wrong...how many teams are willing to trade with us??? Belichick moved around very little last year and that was puzzling...I don't think any teams trust us enough anymore...can you blame them???
ctpatsfan77 said:Dan Shanoff of the Daily Quickie summed it up last off-season, when he basically asked why any GM in his right mind would ever trade with the Pats; the de facto assumption has to be that the Pats think they'll come out ahead on any trade they make.
I for one think that if the Pats trade down, they won't trade back up (e.g., 21 -> 29 -> 26), either because they'll feel they don't need to, or no one else will let them trade back up.
spidey2559 said:Patriots get 2 2nd's(35, 52) 3 3rd's(75, 86, 97). 5 quality picks within the first 100 selections. All without the 1st round salary tag price. Let's say that only two out of the 5 selections make out to be solid starters....that's two more starters for the future than we have now.Pick #97 is a Comp pick, and therefore untradeable.
I suppose it would be plausible for them to swap 21 & 29 with a 4th this year and next thrown in. Something like that.
http://www.theredzone.org/2005/draft/draftvaluechart.asp
OhExaulted1 said:spidey2559 said:Patriots get 2 2nd's(35, 52) 3 3rd's(75, 86, 97). 5 quality picks within the first 100 selections. All without the 1st round salary tag price. Let's say that only two out of the 5 selections make out to be solid starters....that's two more starters for the future than we have now.Pick #97 is a Comp pick, and therefore untradeable.
I suppose it would be plausible for them to swap 21 & 29 with a 4th this year and next thrown in. Something like that.
http://www.theredzone.org/2005/draft/draftvaluechart.asp
Point well taken, oh, exaulted one. ;-) Ok, so that scenario wouldn't work. And I don't see the Jets giving up a high third and second...
The philosophy in my thinking is simply to get out of the 1st round and all of the financial and fanatical implications that goes with it.
This year, as estimated by Kiper, is a year full of second-tier players....all the way up to the 4th round. This season favors a Pioli-Belichik philosophy of bargain rather than the elite-blue chip approach.
I simply don't see that much of a drop off from the 1st to the second round...
Third Base!shirtsleeve said:Yeah, Touch and First are a couple of my favorite offensive players, and Fourth is my favorite defensive one!
F.B.N. said:...how many teams are willing to trade with us??? Belichick moved around very little last year and that was puzzling...I don't think any teams trust us enough anymore...can you blame them???
spidey2559 said:I mentioned this scenario in one of the other posts...The Jets have the 2nd round(35) and 2 3rd rounders (71, 97). The Pats trading no. 1 for their #2 and most likely their latter 3rd round pick, it's a win-win for both sides.
ctpatsfan77 said:Dan Shanoff of the Daily Quickie summed it up last off-season, when he basically asked why any GM in his right mind would ever trade with the Pats; the de facto assumption has to be that the Pats think they'll come out ahead on any trade they make.
I for one think that if the Pats trade down, they won't trade back up (e.g., 21 -> 29 -> 26), either because they'll feel they don't need to, or no one else will let them trade back up.