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    All that is presented in that post is a he-said she-said situation with one guy at one website, so of course it makes perfect sense to extrapolate that to all libruls. Sounds like somebody has an agenda. Sweet.
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    So you're not shocked by the responses from DailyKOS?
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    I'm not shocked by many things. The responses aren't great but neither are they damning unless you're already inclined to think that way. In the end there are two parties who disagree on the facts, the facts still are not plainly established after the exchange, and one party decides that experience is enough to suggest that dailykos routinely distorts the truth, and then you post a thread that suggests that the left routinely distorts the truth. That would seem to be a lot less than truthful, don't you think? Funny how that works. Further, I've seen plenty of corrections on dailykos when it was clear they'd made a mistake. I'm not saying they're perfect, but it's clear that the conclusion here does not follow from the premises.
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    Seems to me the facts were clearly laid out by the defense (though they should have come from the prosecution). But you appear to embody what my subject line was.
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    I'm not surprised when partisan websites, or networks, ignore facts in favor of their agenda.

    It's wrong when both sides do it, and based solely on that exchange, I'm inclined to think DailyKos is doing it here.

    Funny that your thread claims that this is SOP for "the left," though. And the implication would seem to be that it's only the left. Which is amusing when you have a "news" channel like Fox that routinely makes "mistakes" that portray Dems in a bad light and glorifies guys like O'Keefe, who deliberately edit footage, and commit crimes, to further their agenda.
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    Heh, yeah I was being a little more than partisan with the title :)
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    Ha ha! Claim != evidence. I mean, come on. I'm not saying their claims are false, but they need to support them.
    Of course I do, at least in your eyes - I've seen the way you think and frankly, it's extremely lazy.
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    I think we'd all find more "common ground" if titles were accurate....something like "How the Daily Kos rationalizes their accusations" might do nicely. No one's put on the hot seat - no one's backed into a corner they didn't ask to be put into.

    We'd probably all find a lot more in common if we stayed away from words like "all" when, in fact, we are actually describing "some" or even just "one," of anything.

    The fact is - not ALL LIBERALS rationalize their accusations. SOME liberals go out of their way to offer stats and statistics, facts and figures. As do SOME conservatives. But, when confronted with a heading such as "how the LEFT rationalizes THEIR accusations" even those liberals who do not stoop to such rationalizations are left with their backs up and their hackles raised.

    You're not going to promote a decent dialogue with that kind of falsely inciting introduction because you've already shown pre-judgement.

    It doesn't do me any good to come in here and say, "Damn, you're right, what idiots those leftists are," because I'm certainly not going to say something that untrue about myself or any other left leaning individual I know who does not indulge in "tactics," such as those mentioned. I'm already irritated that I've, once again, been lumped unfairly with someone else and I'm not about to feed your fire by agreeing with you about the Kos while trying desperately to disassociate the KOS from the LEFT.

    That's something you, as an intelligent human being, should have already had the brains to do for yourself.
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    Am always amazed that for those who decry the polarization of politics, take comments verbatim from a partisan site to attack another partisan site and then generalize the outcome... this shows a complete lack of intelligence and a reversion to school yard gossip. If so and so said this it must be true, cannot remember anyone posting anything from Daily Kos... so now the right sees an article on a partisan RW site, and assumes it is truth???

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    Ha ha - the democrats have been routinely accused of being ant-business. Take a look at the members of the USCC board and you'll see that it is 100% a big-business lobby, and its own mission statement puts it squarely in the camp of free marketeers.

    Sounds like a Republican speech, doesn't it? You can bet your britches that they oppose most if not all government regulations. But keep pretending things are something they aren't, it's what we've come to expect from you!
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    And I've come to expect very little from you except for left wing talking points. Baa baa goes the sheep.
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    I give this post an F. Your homework for the day is to write 3 valid and sound syllogisms, and 3 valid but not sound syllogisms, and 3 invalid syllogisms, describing the formal errors in each of the invalid ones. Next, you are to write 3 inductive arguments, each including at least one error in reasoning. Identify and describe the error and offer suggestions on correcting or re-writing the arguments without errors. Homework is due at 5pm EST Friday, May 7.
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    I give this retort a D+. You will have to do plenty of extra credit to get yourself to a passable grade. Your homework now includes writing 10 retorts each of which is cleverer than this one. If the last 5 retorts are not increasingly clever, you will have to write 10 more.
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    This post gets a 0. Your homework now includes writing at least 1 marginally clever post on this board by 5pm EST today. Based on your previous efforts, it should take you around 3 hours to think one up.
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    Children, children, children......

    It would be interesting to know everyone's level of education and/or field of study for some reason. I'll bet we'd be surprised, amazed, stupified even!!!

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    reminds me of an old saying when I consulted with the developmentally disabled.. booze is the great equalizer in a bar you cannot tell if you are talking with a nuclear scientist or a developmentally disabled person.

    I suspect that you could extrapolate that to the internet... never know who is on the other side.
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