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How high is Kelley Washington's ceiling?

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  1. Fixit

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    Let's say that the change of scenery does him good, and Belichick gets him to realize his potential. With his physical tools, how good can he be?
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    7 ft, unless it's a Cathedral.

    sorry, couldn't resist.
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    I posted this in another thread...

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/washington_kelley

    Since you asked for his ceiling, I'm only posting the Positives:

    "ANALYSIS
    Positives: Explosive breakaway threat with impressive leaping ability … Explodes coming off the line and uses his hands well to escape press coverage … Has an array of moves to elude defenders and shows proper crack-block techniques upfield … Sharp route-runner who is especially effective on underneath passes and crossing patterns … Has good field awareness and is very conscious of the sideline markers … Separates quickly from the defender in the open, showing that second gear needed to gain yardage after the catch … Natural hand extender going up for the ball and shows fluid body adjustments coming back for the off-target tosses … Very tough and physical going for the ball in a crowd … His upfield acceleration consistently allows him to break tackles … Gets in the defender's way when trying to block for the ground game."


    I really don't think this will be a David Terrell-type camp fodder signing. Hopefully he'll make an impact, he is really saying all the right things and clearly has the mindset to make it happen.
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    time will tell do you think peolpe have crystal balls?
  5. Fixit

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    Now that's some fine analysis. Thanks for sharing it with me.
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    I would compare him to a Givens type receiver if you want to compare past WRS -
    Will he be just as good? Time will tell
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    i suggest fortune tellers, palm readers, gypsies or maybe a fortune cookie
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    Upside-wise I am thinking Keyshawn Johnson in his prime. But he has to prove that he can get there first. Good luck at training camp KW!
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    They might! That would certainly explain why so many of us spray glass cleaner down our slacks.

    But seriously, I think that this could be a good signing if KW can be the type of route runner that can find the hole in the zone. If he runs crossing route, we're doomed as this is the weakness in Tom's game. He doesn't throw middle short crossing routes very well. Or maybe its the receivers. I'm no expert; I am just making an observation.

    He could be Donald Hayes or he could be very productive. Is he the type of receiver that can outrun safeties, out muscle corners, and get open? Can he run a few routes very well? How're his hands?

    I saw a couple of Bengals games where he led the team in receptions but apparently those were the only two he made an impact in as I look at this career stats.
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    OMG, that's funny!

    And it works just as well for any question a person asks about what someone else thinks may or may not happen in the future! We can't know for sure until it happens, so why waste breath talking about it?

    Oh, I've seen the light of your crystal balls!
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    The year he was drafted he was rated as the third best receiver

    and 23rd best player by NFL Draft Countdown. If healthy, he may

    have a good upside.
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    AT 6-3 218 with decent speed and great hands - the sky is the limit.

    Major neck injury really hurt him in his last year at college, when he tricked Donte Stallworth by not coming out during his last year of eligibility after telling Donte he would, only to hurt the neck and thus lose his high #1 potential.

    He was buried in Cinnci behind some pretty awesome recievers. He showed willingness to do anything to get on the field by learning to be a "gunner".

    Reports I get from friends in Cinnci say, IF he stays healthy, he will be awesome. The guy is fast, runs sweet routes and knows what to do after the catch and he has great hands. Hamstrings have really "hamstrung" him.

    So, crystal balls polished (thank you Patsgo) I woudl say we may have struck gold here - of course, I always take the positve approach when a player puts on a Patriot uni.
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    I think he can be better than Givens. Washington is more talented, similar body build... the only question will be can he adjust to our offense?
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    Big question for him is can he stay healthy. If he can, he could be very good.

    His greatest value for the Patriots, IMO, will be in the red zone.
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    I'm going with a 42" vertical.

    In this offense, Washington can look as good as Terry Glenn used to look in a Patriot uniform but less attractive in a dress. Potential game beaker with the occasional game that makes you throw your remote. If he was a primary threat on the Bengals or even a team like the Jets, he could play like the best of them (see Cotchery's numbers last season or Hosyourmamma on the Bengals).
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    He'll be a training camp casualty, then go on to catch 24 for some team that picks him up.
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    Maybe as good as Chad Jackson?
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    I think we are starting to learn that there is more involved than simply how good he looks in a bathing suit. Size, speed, etc. are only part of the story.

    I watched a show that spent time with Torry Holt, the guy trains like a freak but also spends hours in the film room studying himself, his opponents and other top receivers. He wants to get better and better, 7 1000 yard seasons in a row and he still wants to improve.
    http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/133310

    Washington is what is is, it is highly unlikely he is going to change now. His career year was 31 catches. He is not even a lock to make the team.

    I say his ceiling is 50 catches, 5 TDs and we would all be pretty happy with that for a 5th WR.
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    Come down out of the clouds, guys. It's Kelly Washington we're talking about. As Tuna would say, let's not put him in Canton yet. Be realistic - he's competing with Gaffney and Caldwell for a starting spot. In a 3-receiver set, it's Stallworth, Welker and one of the 3 above.

    Put it this way - who will have the higher reception total this yr - Caldwell or Washington? My money is on the guy with the big eyeballs.
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    Time will tell what we see in Washington...It is going to be a battle at WRers in TC...Best WR will be on the field....
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    His upside is about the same as Caldwell, Gaffney, and Jackson, maybe less.
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    FWIW, I had TJ Housh on my fantasy team, so paid attention to the Bengals passing a game a lot when at the sports bar, and I had a real hard time telling the difference between Washington and Housh. (That's a good thing.)

    I think they are extremely similar players, but Washington is faster. So I'd say his upside is a little above TJ, and TJ is pretty nasty.

    Really it's just a matter of healthy IMO.
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    Mine have been called crystal at times. His ceiling is very high if you consider height, weight, hands, speed, and the kind of hard worker that he supposedly is.

    If the darned nagging injuries go away, the sky is da limit. I out.
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    reminds me of this guy the pats drafted..whats his name...?? Chad Jackson?

    Untapped potential but a bad case of the injury bug....oh yeah!!!

    i think these two could be lethal combination in additoin to stallworth in years to come...

    I wouldnt be at all suprised if we traded one of these WR

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