Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by Brady_to_Moss, Jul 21, 2007.
i am thinking around 70 catches 900 yds and 7 td's...What do you guys think?
possibly more td's
I think he could become Tom's new best friend,especialy around the end zone.I'll go with 70/900-1000yrds/10-12 td's. If there weren't so many other options I'd give him more td's
picture the offense in the red zone.
moss going to the right
troy up the middle with welker
faulk in the back field
and vrabel going left
it can't be defended
moss will rack up a solid number of td's while they make plays in the red zone
Um, I think I'd put the TE options well above the Vrabel threat... but that's just me
nonsense. put vrabel in
If Moss only gets 7 TDs with TB throwing, he'll probably want to retire.
Because Randy is a vertical threat as well as a red zone threat I can foresee
some multiple td games for him.
10 td's would be a more reasonable prediction for the TB to RM tandem.
I see fewer catches but more TDs. Rec in the 60's, 11 TDs, 800-900 yards sounds about right.
Brady still owes Vrabel some "crack." Two TDs will do.
This is how NE's top receiver has faired each year under Belichick. No receiver has ever caught more than 7 TDs in season under Belichick.
Year Rec Yds TDs Player
2006 61 760 4 RC
2005 78 998 5 DB
2004 56 874 3 DG
2003 57 803 3 DB
2002 97 890 3 TB
2001 101 1199 5 TB
2000 83 944 4 TB
Average 76 924 4
My guess for Randy would be 65 receptions, 850 yards and 6 TDs.
Yeah but we never had anyone as talented as Moss.
ya i agree..Moss is the most talent the have had since hes been there. I really think Stallworth is going to benifit from having moss on the other side of him. Look for him to have a solid season too.
With Moss and Stallworth, I envision many more touchdowns from outside the red zone as they stretch the field......
i agree on that. I think brady will have alot more TD passes over 20 yds this season
hopefully. but he isn't the best deep passer. Of course, stallworth and moss will make him shine anyways.
Though, I kind of envision them getting strong enough leads where they run the ball and work on the clock a bit more than just trying to score all the time.
But whatever works.
More TDs, fewer receptions, higher YPC.
I'm thinking he's a preferred goal line option at 6'4" - 15+ TDs - with 50 catches, 17 YPC is my prediction.
The lack of receptions won't hurt him in free agency as most GMs are smart enough to recognize our system spreads the ball out so much - and indeed - Moss's presence is what allows that to happen - that he will still be much sought after.
Moss understands this as well which is why he won't grumble too much about it - knowing that if he plays a key role in winning a SB Ring he's more than made up for the lack of catches.
When Moss was in his prime I would agree with you. I've read articles by ex-Raider personnel that have said Moss is a shell of his old self. Is it sour grapes? Perhaps.
If it were Moss in his prime my numbers would be 90 rec, 1,200 yds and 14 TDs. Time will tell for me. I was high on Doug Gabriel last year and he let me down.
I'm thinking like 56-66 recepts for around 850-998yrds and something like 8-10 TD's
Stallworth just might have the most yards.
Welker will have the most receptions.
Moss will have the most TD's
Watson won't have as many recepts but a better YPC, and more TD's.
Brady will be in the 3,798yrds to 4,100yrds range and throw around 32 TD's.
I'm thinking NE will have about 5,800yrds - 5,998yrds of total offense (maybe more).
For Comparison if you take NE's avg yards per game from 2006 (335.6 per game) and spread that out over 16 games you get 5,369.6 yards of total offense for 2006. So, my predictions seem reasonable.
I'll withhold my judgement until I see a Qb better than Andrew Walter or Aaron Brooks throwing to him.
He's a 10/1000 guy this year. (TDs/Yards).
I still get all "giddy inside" thinking about how Tom Brady has Moss and Stallworth to throw to. I think Moss catching 10+ TD's should be a lock and will make it back to the pro bowl. As far as recieving yards, I think Moss will reach at least 1,000 yards but not much more because the Pats have so much talent at reciever. The "Moss of old is back". Write that down!
And Welker and Watson, Thomas, Brady, Brown, Faulk, and one of three Gafney, Caldwell, Washington and the kid too......WOW is right.
Just something to consider...
"On May 15, 2007, more than two weeks after the trade to New England, Moss was called out by his former Raiders coaches. His former offensive coordinator, Tom Walsh, said of Moss, "Randy Moss is a player whose skills are diminishing, and he's in denial of those eroding skills...Randy was a great receiver, but he lacked the work ethic and the desire to cultivate any skills that would compensate for what he was losing physically later in his career."  Walsh also reported that Moss told him, "'I'm too old to practice on Wednesday and Thursday, but I'm not too old to play on Sunday.'"
From John Tomase
For Sporting News
"Minutes later, the Patriots finished with a series of gassers. One of the fastest men ever to don pads, Moss finished last virtually every time. He could not have looked less interested, which was also the case during a number of drills.
And thus began the debate over how he'll fare in New England. He has already declared that "the old Moss is back." Whether that's the perennial 1,000-yard terror in Minnesota or the lazy malcontent in Oakland remains to be seen. "
I was thinking more of YAC as they run away from defenders........
Just curious, how do you claim the nom de plume, city of champions.. but otoh, guess city of champion does not sound very good.. keep wishing maybe you can pluralize some day.
They've got to be peein their pants in Indy...
I'm gonna get me a T-shirt made after this year that says "Hoosierdaddy"
Yeah, but the problem is, Moss isn't/won't be the #1 WR - Stallworth is. Stallworth will lead in receptions and yardage. Moss will be a sort of hybrid between the role Givens and Patten played - deep threat and red zone threat. Where Givens in the Red Zone made his TDs off the hitch and WR screen, Moss will do it with the fade but the results will be similar - lower total receptions and yards, but very high YPC and TDs.
Patten 2004 44 800 18.2 48 7
Givens 2003 34 510 15.0 57 6
except that Moss should get more like 55 receptions and 10 TDs. The hardest thing to figure is his final YPC. He's have plenty of deep balls, but a lot of those TDs are going to be 6 yard fades to the back corner of the endzone, so that could bring the average way down.
All this assumes no health considerations.
It won't be Moss's best season statisitically, but it may be Brady's best. Every receiver's stats will go up because Brady spreads the ball around, and Moss will be just as valuable gobbling up the defensive resources of other teams allowing other receivers to be free, as he will be receiving the ball.
I dont see gaudy numbers from Moss ,but respectable.The guy is a weapon we all know that,he wont be wasted,However,his downfield threat can only open passes to Welker,Stallworth,Jackson Watson and runs for Maroney.Nothing new in that,I know,but barring some major injury to TB,the RB or an O-Line person,what else can you reasonably expect? Imagine the five reciever set,where the pass rush/blitz is hard to conceal,I see a high completion ratio .
I too think Stallworth will be the number 1
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