How did the Texans fix their defense overnight?

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  1. vuudu

    vuudu In the Starting Line-Up

    I hope this thread is not categorized as knee jerk, but I am really curious to know how the Texans were able to fix their defense so quickly.
    Can we to a turn around similar to them? How many pieces will it take? Who are the legit candidates that we should go after?
    I am clueless and will want some answers from those who watch College football and are also in the know in regards to free agency.
  2. rivers983

    rivers983 Practice Squad Player

    I am not sure how a team would "fixed their defense" overnight.
  3. reflexblue

    reflexblue Supporter Supporter

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    Good drafting... but they had to suck to get all those high draft picks. Do you want to suck that bad for a couple of years? One of the problems in always being on top is that you draft on the bottom.


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    Having one of the best and smartest defensive coordinators in the game in Wade Phillips helps a defense immediately.

    Imagine if we had Dick LeBeau as DC? ....
  5. oldskool138

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    Having a solid drafting philosophy besides "value"? Not trading down and out of the draft? Not always looking for the perfect player who can play defense and special teams?

    Am I close?
  6. MP-Logick

    MP-Logick Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    They have a lot more talent, for one thing.

    Last offseason they added a #1 shutdown corner and a supremely impressive rookie DE in J.J Watt, Brooks Reed, and Wade Phillips, who is a poor head coach but a very competent defensive coordinator. They already had DeMeco Ryans, Brian Cushing, and, oh yeah, Mario Williams.

    They were a very underachieving unit in 2010 and played up to their level and more this year.
  7. StevePatsFan

    StevePatsFan Practice Squad Player

    Pretty sure they signed a good corner in free agency.
  8. BelichickFan

    BelichickFan B.O. = Fugazi Supporter

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    They had that as a core then added another high pick in JJ Watt and signed two starting CB in Manning and Joseph.
  9. PatsGirl2011

    PatsGirl2011 Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    The Pats need to start drafting first round talent rather than later guys and hoping they pan out because usually they seem not to.
  10. AndyJohnson

    AndyJohnson Veteran Supporter

    Wait did you just say the Texans who made the playoffs for the first time ever are team building geniuses and the Patriots idiots?
  11. AndyJohnson

    AndyJohnson Veteran Supporter

    How does 5 SBs in 11 years equal 'usually they seem not to pan out"
  12. ForThoseAboutToRock

    ForThoseAboutToRock Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    Simple: the Texans just read and then draft accordingly.
  13. coolguy

    coolguy Banned

    bill's defensive philosophy and drafting are simply out dated.

    bill defenses have always been bend but don't break, dating all the way back to his giant days. It's only now that the nfl has caught up due to rule changes and qb play.

    Bill needs help on defense.
  14. everlong

    everlong Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    I don't think drafting in the top half of the draft for forever and finishing it off with Joseph in FA is overnight. Phillips certainly help expedite it this year as well.
  15. MP-Logick

    MP-Logick Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    I'm pretty certain if Patriots fans had been offered, before the game, that their defense would give up exactly 19 points, they would have taken it in a heartbeat.

    As for the draft...we could have used that Ingram first on a player who would not pan out, not had a free second last year and no extra first this just want immediate satisfaction. There are always good players available at the spots BB trades down to, it's just that in recent years he has had a harder time picking good defensive players in those spots.

    I would certainly like to improve the front seven so a poor secondary would not be as detrimental, but I hope BB continues his draft philosophy.
  16. ForThoseAboutToRock

    ForThoseAboutToRock Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    Many of the contributors to the wins the Patriots have had lately have come via free agency. The argument therefore is that the Patriots could have selected different players via the draft and not needed to rely on RFA's as much.

    Despite the success, there's obviously room to improve.
  17. alvinnf

    alvinnf In the Starting Line-Up

    JJ Watt is a white version of Richard Seymour. Beast.
  18. vuudu

    vuudu In the Starting Line-Up

    The reason I say overnight was because of how they finished the season before this, they were dead last in passing yds on defense. They gave up so many big plays after big plays and then, with a shorten off season work, they became so good.
  19. oldskool138

    oldskool138 In the Starting Line-Up

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    Maroney - Not on the team (or in the NFL)
    Merriwether - Not on the team and barely plays on the team he's on now
    Chung - solid but not spectacular
    Mayo - see Chung, Patrick
    Solder - pretty good but the jury's still out (still didn't fill a huge area of need)
  20. Bella*chick

    Bella*chick Addicted to the light

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    I always roll my eyes at the schmaltzy "no matter what happens, we are so lucky to root for this team" posts before a big playoff game. Because if a loss occurs, we are suddenlythe biggest stiffs ever around here.
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