How can we eliminate the 3 and outs?

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  1. NG Pats Fan

    NG Pats Fan On the Game Day Roster

    Especially in the first half..
  2. signbabybrady

    signbabybrady Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

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    Gain 10 + yards before 4th down.
  3. PatsFanSince74

    PatsFanSince74 Supporter Supporter

    Is this a multiple choice? I take, "Make more first downs." Otherwise, "Score more TD's on First or Second Down" or "More Special Teams TD's" or "All of the above" come to mind. :singing:

    In other words, I think the previous poster and I are politely suggesting to the person who started this thread that if you start a thread like this, you should offer your own suggestions as to why (a) you view this as an issue (perhaps, OMG, with statistics vs. other teams) and (b) how you see the causes thereof and possible remedies therefor.
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  4. patsfaninpa

    patsfaninpa In the Starting Line-Up

    No huddle spread, hurry up with Woodhead from the beginning of the game. Use the pass to set up the run. Bring BJGE to run after we get the defense on it's heels.
  5. Bertil

    Bertil Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    You could also turn it over before 3rd down. Oh, wait. We're not talking about the Colts.
  6. MoLewisrocks

    MoLewisrocks Supporter Supporter

    Better execution and quicker adjustments out of the gate. It's all about building rhythm on offense. We tend to be a reactive team early on, waiting to see what the other guy has planned. Sort of probing for potential weakness. Ditto on defense although that seems to be changing a little of late. Being proactive and making them grapple with what we are presenting might be a better approach, less tentative, but you have to have consistent execution to pull that off. And as a unit the offense isn't there yet. All it takes is one bad route, one missed block, one stupid penalty, one dropped ball...and it's back to the drawing board.

    It really comes down to consistent focus and execution and intensity on the part of all 11 players.
  7. patsinthesnow

    patsinthesnow Supporter Supporter

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    Stop the cliche run up the middle for 2yards on 1st down.
  8. mgteich

    mgteich Veteran Supporter

    Sounds fine, but

    What has changed between the great 2010 offense who was great out of the gate and had troubles in the 4th quarter and the great 2011 offense who can't get out of the gate, but plays very well indeed at the end?

  9. TriplecHamp

    TriplecHamp Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    same way most teams do, pick up yards on first down and stay away from 3rd and longs in general.
  10. Hardly Dykes

    Hardly Dykes Rookie

    By realizing that Shane Vereen is the most talented and versatile RB on the roster!
  11. tobias funke

    tobias funke Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

    We could try to keep our voices down when they're on the field.

    And ask opposing teams' fans to do the same.

    Seriously though, if we come up with enough good ideas to eliminate 3 and outs, we can compile them into a nice .PDF to send to Bill. I'm sure he will appreciate it!
  12. RayClay

    RayClay Hall of Fame Poster

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    You'd prefer them in the second half?

    Perhaps we could prohibit teams watching film and game planning for us, that would help.
  13. MoLewisrocks

    MoLewisrocks Supporter Supporter

    It's really just symptomatic of the same problem, inconsistent effort and focus. the 2010 team came out intent and focused and lost it after building early leads. The 2011 team comes out tentative and not focusing or executing consistently or with intensity and then wakes up and gets serious. Sometimes a hair too late. The key as always is to find a way through coaching to get them to play with intensity and focus for 60 minutes.

    I think some weeks the kids are a little full of themselves out of the gate and other weeks the vets are a little complacent expecting one thing and facing another...

    If you watch GB the thing they may have going for them this season that is pretty unusual for a defending champ is that half of their team has experienced what it takes to win against the odds and the other half that wasn't there due to injury and is hungrier than normal to actually experience that kind of season for themselves.

    We have a small handful of players who have experienced a championship season. We have quite a few players who have experienced adversity albeit fewer who have overcome it. And we have a bunch of youngsters who are still adjusting to being in the NF freakin L... Getting them all on the same page consistently presents a real challenge to the coaching staff and team leaders (who are derived from that same mixed bag of relative experience).
  14. brdmaverick

    brdmaverick In the Starting Line-Up

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    I wouldn't consider the 2010 to have had problems. Perhaps you meant the 2009 which was a completely different story. Now those guys FOUND ways to lose in the second half.
  15. brdmaverick

    brdmaverick In the Starting Line-Up

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    .....and to the original poster.....would you prefer they punt on third down?
  16. TheGodInAGreyHoodie

    TheGodInAGreyHoodie Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Punting on 1st down would solve the problem.
  17. JackBauer

    JackBauer Pro Bowl Player

    Did you forget what thread you were posting in?
  18. strngplyr

    strngplyr In the Starting Line-Up

    When I hit page 2 and read that I was like ' how the hell did i get in this thread?'
  19. lamafist

    lamafist Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

  20. robbomango

    robbomango In the Starting Line-Up

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    Throw a 60 yard bomb to.........?:confused: nevermind
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