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  1. AndyJohnson

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    All week leading up to the game most fans opinion of the Bengals was higher than mine.....I see them as an overachiever last year destined to go back to their 6-10 selves.
    I hope that the general opinion of them is right and mine is wrong after we destroyed them today. Doesn't matter this was a strong game by the Pats regardless of whether that was a good, bad or average opponent.
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    you posted "destroyed"...you'll get killed for that, Andy...only flaws and doom and gloom is allowed...team full of rookies and second year players on D manage to eke one out against the 11 Cincy All Pro's...NOT GOOD...very bad for the Patriots
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    I'm with you; in the game thread, I said they had a 7-9 ceiling, and I don't think they'll even do that well. They went 1-5 down the stretch last year for a reason, and are at best the third-best team in their own division.
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    They were missing SIX starters versus the Rats in the playoffs....before that they were rolling people last season...read the game logs...they ADDED offensive weapons this season...the poor Pats and their no talent rookies and 2nd year players BEAT THEIR BRAINS IN TODAY.

    yeah...they must be bad...the Pats CAN'T be any good after all
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    It's important not to get too high with the wins, nor too low with the losses.

    The next three games are all against division opponents. Afterward, we'll know much more about this team.
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    I personally think the Bengals were overrated coming into this game, but I thought they could go 9-7 or even 10-6 if everything went right. I think the way the Pats dominated in all phases for the first first half and the game was over by then for the most part was encouraging. Unless you face a 4-12 or 5-11 team, this type of domination is still impressive.

    That said, the first week of the season can be weird and we can't get too excited just yet. Even
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    I personally think the Bengals were overrated coming into this game, but I thought they could go 9-7 or even 10-6 if everything went right. I think the way the Pats dominated in all phases for the first first half and the game was over by then for the most part was encouraging. Unless you face a 4-12 or 5-11 team, this type of domination is still impressive.

    That said, the first week of the season can be weird and we can't get too excited just yet. Even if the Bengals live up the the AFC North winners that some people have predicted.
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    The win is an important win for us. For me, it is that simple.

    With regard to Cinci, almost everyone had us a being a much stronger team. Seragin's computer model had the patriots by 11.5 points.
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    Like I posted right after the game...first game wins/losses are the LEAST indicative of a team's true character over the course of a 16 game season. One thing you CAN and should agree with is, Tom Brady is still one of the top three signal callers playing the game today.Period.
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    Looked like a bad team to me. How fortunate we get our growing pains against bad and way overrated (Jets) teams.

    We're likely to improve much more than some other teams and there's no better way to struggle than to get wins while you're doing it.:D
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    they will be better than today. as long as better enough to beat mia/buff/nyj its good enough
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    100% agree. Saying that the Bengals suck doesn't mean that I'm not optimistic about the win. It was a quality win, the Pats showed some god things, there's room for growth, and for at least this week I didn't even notice Mankins' absence. The Bengals not being a playoff-caliber team doesn't change that.
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    He's back at 100%, and 100% Tom Brady is the best QB in the NFL, period. Better than Manning, better than Brees.
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    the bengals are a 8-8 to 10-6 football team and like most 4-3 defenses there pass rushing talent is on the outside were the pats have one of the best OT combo in the game... so we will know were the pats OL stands when they play the jets who can bring the rush up the middle in Brady, face



    as far as the pats defense they are young fast and talented so they will show flashes of greatness at times but over all with no pass rush and a weak D line they are a just above average defense that will need the offense to score 28 + points a game to win i say the pats are a 12-4 team with a by in the playoffs
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    Pass rush looked OK to me today.
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    If we can bring today's pass rush every week, we'll be fine, and it's not like the Bengals are known for having a porous line or anything. TBC is for real.
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    They made our front 7 look ferocious. While I hope I'm wrong too, they are just not good enough up front despite the weapons they have. Back to being the Bungles, I pray they can steal 1 from the Steelers and/or Ravens.
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    Good to see fans reacting conservatively to the win, but let's give credit where credit is due. I don't see Cinci slipping that much from last year. They scored 21 points in the second half when they went to the hurry-up, and it wasn't like our defense didn't know what was coming. Their defense held us to one score in the second half.

    This was a game where the Pats came out with more emotion, and are definitely better coached and better prepared, but Cinci is still over .500. I'd pick them for a wild card but I'm leaning towards the two wildcard teams coming out of the AFC south. TN and Houston look this year. I'm glad we're playing the AFC north. Pittsburgh and Cleveland should be easy, and Baltimore will provide a good test.
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    And yet they still basically had to take what the Patriots gave them.
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    Yup, they scored 3 times when the Pats were playing specifically to make sure they wouldn't score 5 times. It was a success, and people expecting 3 and outs from a prevent D are going to be frequently disappointed for no good reason.
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    A couple of people said the Patriots *destroyed* the Bengals. I say this is not accurate. Instead we I say we caught them napping and did a lot of damage early since by the time the game ended they had more yardage. If they were in our division or both teams make the playoffs, they could win a rematch. Time will tell.
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    Yes, which was to find the open receiver, or at least the one in single coverage. Palmer threw for over 350 yards. I am saying that this game does not change my mind that Cinci has a decent offense, possible top 10 or 12, and a good defense, perhaps top 10.

    I like how our defense responded. I think they matched up well against a good offense. If there is anything I am conservative on, it is McCourty. I love the guy, and loved the pick back in april, but I think TO is no better than an average receiver by now.

    I'm not sure the Pats employ a game plan that allows 3 TD in a half. No one is expecting 3 and outs every drive. But realistic fans will see that the pats aren't going to get TD's from the special teams and the defense every week. Take away those two TD's and its a tie game with a minute left, and the other team has the ball.

    I'm not taking anything away from our D, the only people doing that are the ones saying that Cinci is a bad team.
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    The weakness of the bengals was and is their offensive line.

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    what? they could never win a rematch. it was 31-0 before they knew what hit them, and that was with some pats missed opps.


    i had some d-bag charger girls pick the bengals, but i think she's learned her lesson.
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    I/ve always felt BB was weakest at playing teams he had little experience or common opponents with. It was nice to see the Pats "bring it" in that situation and be the one the opponent had to adjust to, rather than vice versa. A lot of knowledgeable people had the Bengals winning this game, and the Pats stumbling through the to a 1-3 record at the bye to regroup. Things look better after today's effort.
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    No way, we completely controlled both sides of the ball. Playing a loose defense to chew up as much time as possible allowed the Bengals to score some, but not nearly enough. We also had a couple opportunities for ints to end the Bengals chances. Our offense never sputtered out either.

    We dominated them
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    Coming into today, the Bengals had scored fewer than 20 points in 9 of their last 12 meaningful games. They were also middle of the pack last year in sacks. Their coaching is questionable at best, and the team is full of chuckleheads.

    In other words, they were an excellent team for the Patriots to play at home to start the season. The Patriots had a solid win, with a lot of positives.
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    AND...the Pats beat a completely healthy Bengals squad with new playmakers...unlike the farce last postseason when they were missing SIX starters versus the Rats
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    you're talking like this is the bcs lol
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    This is correct. They were playing terribly in the first half then rallied, but it was too late. However I am not sure they would win again.
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