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    Jets offensive line coach disagrees with decision - NFL.com

    "New York Jets offensive line coach Dave DeGuglielmo said Thursday that he detests his left guard rotation between Matt Slauson and Vladimir Ducasse, but that decision isn't up to him.

    "That's a directive from high above me," the offensive line coach said Thursday in a testy sit-down with reporters, via The Associated Press. "You'd have to ask somebody higher than me......."

    ".......DeGuglielmo said despite his misgivings, he will continue the rotation.
    "What's best is for me to do what I'm told to do," he said. "That's what's best......."
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    Wow! That franchise sure produces a lot of feces. And then goes out of its way to step in it.

    THANK YOU JETS
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    IMO this situation is extreme enough to deserve its own thread. An assistant coach complaining to the media that the head coach is making lousy decisions about who to play, and describing the inadequacies of specific players in his charge?

    I thought before this that Rex would be given one more year, but now he's lost control of not only his players but his coaches.
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    Situations such as this make me believe that this will be Rex Ryan's last year as coach of that team. And that makes me sad. :(
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    Norv Turner may be available. That would be a nice silver lining.
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    I think we should organize a class action lawsuit against the NFL. They deceived us into thinking we were watching the Patriots play against another professional NFL team. Jets = Washington Generals. :rofl:
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    Rex makes an entertaining punching bag to be sure, but it's the inevitable loss of Tannenbaum that I'll really mourn. He's the one who has hit the deadly double of personnel development: dire cap trouble + dire lack of young talent.

    Check out the Jets' day 1 & 2 draft picks over the past five years. How many of them would you say have turned out to be worth their draft slots?

    1 Quinton Coples
    2 Stephen Hill
    3 Demario Davis
    1 Muhammad Wilkerson
    3 Kenrick Ellis
    1 Kyle Wilson
    2 Vladimir Ducasse
    1 Mark Sanchez
    3 Shonn Greene
    1 Vernon Gholston
    1 Dustin Keller
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    I think it's coming from above Rex...like all the way up at Tanny who wants to justify picking Ducasse in the 2nd round.
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    Here's some further perspective:
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    The guy doing the public whining is their OFFENSIVE LINE COACH.

    .....folks, that's their Dante Scarnecchia...........!!!!!!!!

    Can there be any more contrast between the New England Patriots' and the New York Jets' culture??????
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    OMG..."Eventually, the San Diego Chargers will wise up and replace their coach."

    That cartoon is from 2007!

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    They simply cannot shut up. It's an organizational thing.
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    On that list? Probably one, Wilkerson who's been good up front for them. Shonn Greene has been serviceable I guess for a the third rounder. Everyone else has been disappointing... and man does that feel good :D
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    Perhaps this is what it is all about, their craving for twitter followers and facebook likes is greater than their need to create a team...

    It is about the individual attention..
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    No doubt that Tennenbomb (see what I did there?) is the laxative that makes the diharrea flow in New Jersey. So I'm right there with you as well. Thing is, I think that Tanny is gone with Rex.
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    Hmmmm, well the NFL is already basing their Sunday Night Football theme on a song by Joan Jett and the Blackhearts; but she has another song "Cherrybomb".



    T-t-t-t-t-tannenbomb!!!!!!!!


    That's got potential.
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    The Jets allow their front office run what is going on the field far too much. For example, I think sticking with Sanchez is a business decision since he is getting paid far too much next year to bench this year. You bench Sanchez and it is too hard to go back to him next year and you can't have your back up QB eating up $13 million of cap space and $8 million in salary (his salary is guaranteed which makes him uncutable).

    Platooning of Slauson and Ducasse is probably 100% a business decision, not a football decision. I think I read somewhere Slauson has a playing time bonus. I think platooning him will make it difficult to make on a team that desperately needs to conserve cap dollars. Also, Ducasse is a second round pick and Tannebaum probably feels that the Jets need to make him productive no matter what. Lastly, Slauson is a free agent and with cap problems and a lot of free agents on the team already, they want to force Ducasse to become the starting guard next year.

    You read Jason's articles over at nyjetscap.com and he points out other examples in some of his articles where business decisions impact on the field decisions. Obviously, it looks like Tebow was 100% a marketing decision rather than a football decision.

    This is why I think the Jets may be screwed for a number of years. Woody Johnson wants to sell PSLs and Tannebaum screwed up their cap (yes, Felger the cap is crap:rolleyes:) by giving overvalued top heavy contracts to overrated players (Ferguson, Harris) and guaranteeing money to even more overrated players to free up cap space (Scott, Pace, Sanchez) to keep building. In three short years, it has decimated the talent of their team.
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    Geez, it gets even better. Evidently he also threw the TE's and THEIR coach under the bus!!!!

    "......He expressed his frustration with the media in general, saying that what's actually happening is seldom reported and that an offensive line coach takes undue criticism for the amount of sacks a quarterback takes, for example.

    "Have you ever heard 'those tight ends didn't block well today? Those tight ends had a s----- year blocking? I mean come on," he said."

    Jets O-line coach Dave DeGuglielmo says decision to play Vlad Ducasse comes from 'high above' him | NJ.com
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    Thats wh you get for making a gopher your GM, the good news is that Woody hired Tanny, if he fires them he'll probably promote the next gopher to GM, as long as Woody is there the Jets will probably be in trouble, we're so lucky to have Bob Kraft running this organization, crap roills downhill.
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    The funny thing is that guys like Rah!Rah! will blame the media for creating this Jets' circus, but what teams has a position coach tell the media that the front office is making football decisions and forcing the coaching staff to play untalented players or a player (Bart Scott) rip the fans to the media?

    For all those critics of Belichick who say that Belichick being adversarial to the media and forcing the players and coaches not to say anything to the media provides no competitive advantage only needs to look at the Jets. Rex's policy of letting his staff and players say whatever they want creates huge controversies when they are struggling like they are. The Jets desperately need to put their heads down and try in what looks to be a futile attempt to win out. Yet, they are dealing with a self-induced media circus of Bart Scott and a position coach.
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    As Felger says, Woody Johnson is Spauling Smails. His only qualifications to own a team is that he was born to the right family. He has never done anything with his life to show he can manage his checkbook nevermind a billion dollar football team. He did start a hedge fund company, but by all accounts he was just a money man and he never ran it. He also is active in the charity world which means he pays a lot of money to attend galas and art shows.

    Unless Johnson installs a real football person as president of the company, I expect him to continue to make horrible business decisions. I disagree that Tanny is a gopher. He is a pretty good capologist, but he absolutely sucks at personnel decisions. He doesn't know how to evaluate talent. That is a horrible character trait for a GM.
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