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Holy Crap Dick Armey/Tea Partiers are dumb - Federalist Papers/Alexander Hamilton

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  1. Phokus

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    In addition, Alexander Hamilton was against free trade and a federal government that intervened on behalf of business. I even learned this in high school.

    Why don't tea partiers who know better call idiots like Armey out on ignorant ramblings?
     
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    :) I'm sure most "tea partiers" have read the Constitution and the Federalist Papers.

    Want to see somebody really talk out his ass? Find clips of Glenn Beck talking about the Constitution and the Founding Fathers -- that's some high-quality entertainment.
     
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    Think the tea party will be renamed as "weak tea"... read somewhere that despite the right wing propaganda of Fox News.. only between 300-1,000 showed up this week.
     
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    Weak tea.......and yet the tea party is a very frequent topic here. If it can be turned into the face of anything deemed not progressive enough then everyone not in progressive lock step can be marginalized. Throw in Fox News and any voice of opposition will be laughed off. We do it here, the president does it and Gibbs does it. I think it's dishonest and and the very thing everyone complained about when republicans were the majority.

    The fact is the majority of people who are uneasy today are not card carrying members of the so-called Tea Party but the are lumped together with the most outrageous elements of it by disingenuous design. Dissent used to be the highest forms of patriotism during the Bush years but today it's become nothing more than a target for ridicule.
     
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    What dissent? The lemmings of America marched right into the sea when Bush was president. Any dissent was met with the White House ignoring them and pushing on with their agenda. I guess, in that way, you're correct- The Bush and Obama White House are very similar (there are other reason, too). But the defining moment of the Bush Presidency was the authorization vote for invading Iraq. Bush was able to ride that for 7 years.
     
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    Be careful about the Alexander Hamilton analogy. The smartest of the Founding Fathers would have almost certainly been a member of the Tea Party movement, as he became a hyper Christian near the end of his life.

    Supporting tariffs for a nascent country struggling to break free from the hold of England, which Hamilton supported more than France, makes much more sense then than today.

    Hamilton as something of a genius would have adapted to changing circumstances. Certainly the supporter of a constitutional monarch or an executive serving a one ten-year term, both preferable to what we have now, would have realized that gubmit had grown too large.

    Too much of a good thing is a bad thing.

    A superb biography on Hamilton is by Ron Chernow. Alexander Hamilton - Google Books
     
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    and dissent was often labeled as unpatriotic or even treason during the Budh years...

    I think there's a hefty dose of skepticism for the tea party due to its timing. Is it possible that these people are legitimately concerned about government spending, and that Obama's increases, on top of Bush's, helped accelerate it? Sure. But when you combine Fox's involvement and the timing, it looks much more like an anti-Obama / anti-Dem movement than an anti-big govt movement.

    Personally, I think it's largely the former, spurred on by a bad economy. Let's see what happens when Republicans are again in power and the economy has recovered. My own belief is that we won't be hearing much about any "tea party".
     
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    How come Obama stopped going to church, he used to be quite a "God Man"-----:confused:
     
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    I think people relying on the Founding Fathers to support their views are always going to be forced to pick and choose. As individuals, they were just men, and full of the contradictions we all have in views as well as actions. (and as a group they certainly weren't anywhere close to a monolithic portrayal many people like to refer to)

    (ot: I have that Chernow book and hope to read it soon -- it us supposed to be quite good)

     
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    What comes to mind is the Dixie Chicks and the resulting conundrum over 12 words, they received death threats and hate mail..
     
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    Of course not, things will be getting better, there will be no need for a Tea Party.............:rocker:

    Obama, Pelosi, Reid etc, they created the need for the Tea Party.

    Stop The Wars
    Close Gitmo
    Deport Aunt Zucchini
     
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    wow... such selective memory (if you're serious)
     
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    Don't you remember on January 21, 2009, Obama invaded Afghanistan and Iraq, causing an 11 trillion dollar national debt (after he personally destroyed the stock market by being elected?)
     
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    #24 Jersey

    Hey!! Does this mean you got that job writing textbooks for The State of Texas????
     
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    #80 Jersey

    Its funny...


    The Boston Tea party was a protest against one of the biggest corporations on Earth at the time. And they weren't protesting being taxed....they were protesting a MONOPOLY.

    The same kind of monopoly that the insurers have with the anti-trust exemption, price fixing...But this time its worse, instead of profiting off trade and tea....these insurers are profiting off of the death of americans at the rate of 40,000/year.

    If this was an actual tea party, in todays world. You'd see a bunch of people dressed as homeless people throwing insurance policies into Boston Harbor.



    How *****-backwards have we become? How stupid are we?
     
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    You believe what you want with your fancy "science" and "history" that replace the perfect knowledge of God with the flawed and limited knowledge of Man. When Jesus comes riding back on a T-Rex to judge you all as Nazi commies, you Americans will wish you had read the history books I wrote for the Republic of Texas. Also there wasn't a civil rights movement... why would there be?
     
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    And you're a theologian too...damn

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