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Holder admits to lying about fast and furious...refuses to resign

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    Dirty scumsucking bastard, he looks like a Wolverine, the curse of Harry is upon him.
     
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    I can't find in the article where Holder "admits" to lying. Can you please point it out? Not saying he didn't lie. In fact, as the US atty General, I would think a headline like "Holder found to have telling the truth accurately for his entire term" to be more stunning. Your source is the equivalent of the Humboldt County Pot Party stating that the government's War on Drugs is harming cancere patients. In other words, slightly biased.
     
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    There is always biasm on this forum. CNN, NBC, MSNBC, any website with liberal in it is ok here on this forum, but when its slightly biased to the right, its wrong!!
     
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    He admits that he wasn't "accurate":

    The linked DOJ article referenced above:

    Welcome to the United States Department of Justice

    That's from April 2009. I guess math isn't part of the curriculum at Columbia Law School.
     
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    What is "biasm" Is that an orgasm for bisexuals?

    Of course there's bias everywhere. In this case, the source and article fail to demonstrate where Holder "admits to lying". In fact, after they fail, they gcome in again and say that Holder admits to lying about something else, but again fails to show where that happened.

    You response shows that I'm right because you decided to blow off my main question.

    Also, how can Holder refuse to resign when he has never been asked to resign. Has anyone in a position to do so asked him to resign? (and you can't count yourself as one)
     
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    following this case it's hard to fathom how people knew things that he did not. These people have minions who gather all available info for them. Obama needs to force him out - I am sure there are other very qualified people to hold the job. Republicans and democrats alike want a separate investigation that will cost millions to run him out of there - do the right thing Obama - he got caught.
     
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    You might be right. THe appearance of inpropriety is enough for Holder to get bounced. He can't do hid job at this point. Unfortunately Obama has don'e what the previous admin has done, so Holder's prolly safe.
     
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    Slightly biased to the right??? Methinks you do not understand what bias means if this is slightly...

    This is a right wing blog with a definite agenda, cannot make that different.
     
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    Is the DOJ website biased as well?

    Good grief.
     
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    42 members of congress are asking holder to resign...
    Eric Holder | Call For Resignation | The Daily Caller

    As for your other question...Yes Holder did lie.

    He said that he only knew for a few weeks, but he knew much longer than that. That small detailed lie can make or break any case AND that is purgery.
     
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    Perjury.... unless you are talking about a eating disorder.
     
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    What is the title of this thread? The thread you titled. What does the thread title say? Where is any admission of lying?
     
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    This doesn't even sound like a lie by Holder. A few weeks vs. a couple months is not much of difference, especially if someone doesn't recall the precise dates. That said, there are many reasons that Holder should resign other than Fast and Furious, for instance:

    CHART: Federal Prosecution Of Financial Fraud Is At A 20-Year Low | ThinkProgress

    Huffington Post’s Alexander Eichler reports on a new study put out by a watchdog group that finds that federal prosecution of financial fraud has now reached a 20-year low.

    [​IMG]
     
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    April 2009 - May 2011 = a couple months?

    Attorney General Eric Holder at the Mexico/United States Arms Trafficking Conference

     
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    That's because of the magic of Frank-Dodd. Fraud has been all but eliminated now! :rolleyes:
     
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    As I understand it, Project Gunrunner was a broad name for a series of projects to stop our guns from getting into the wrong hands. Fast and Furious was only one program under the umbrella of Project Gunrunner. Besides, clearly the issue with Fast and Furious is the specific implementation, not the concept. The people who most likely are behind the effort to stop Fast and Furious completely are the American gun manufacturers who benefit from violence in Mexico. The pressure should be for Fast and Furious to be reigned in and redesigned. The idea of selectively providing weapons with limited functionality in order to trace them is a good one in my opinion. The problem with Fast and Furious is that there were too many weapons to monitor and some of the weapons were really quite high end.
     

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