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HOF Voter leonard Shapiro of the Wash Post Repeats Tomase's Libel

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  1. shmessy

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    The Jets are feeling real heat over tripgate and they and their folks are pulling out the stops.

    In reality, Rex setting up those 6 guys to interfere with the game in progress is far more serious than the Patriots having a camera in public but filming from an unallowed position.

    rex speaks

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    Do people have some sort of automatic web search program to automatically find every reporter that included the word "spygate" in a new story so they can post the link on this board and help that hack generate page hits?
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    He's the same guy who wrote this. Sounds a lot like Easterbrook. He can go **** himself.
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    Since Monday, King, Easterbrook, and now this hack Shapiro have referenced "SpyGate".

    Something tells me that the timing of these articles is not a coincidence.
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    This is because of the Jets. Rex setting up those 6 guys to interfere with the game in progress is far more serious than the Patriots having a camera in public but filming from an unallowed position. This is the reason. They are running scared. They need to find something to divert attention fast.
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    No this is not because of Sal.

    This is because we beat the Jet 45-3 and the Bears almost by as much. Whenever we hit the #1 spot on the power ranking the haters are gonna bring up spygate. Doesn't matter what else is going on.

    Please remove the tin foil hats before posting again.
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    Another article that people shouldn't read and support let alone post on a forum where hundreds of other people can read it, support it, and get pissed off. I know I'm not required to click on this thread so spare me the lecture about it. I'm merely hoping that I can convince as many people as possible to not give these people hits at the expense of their blood pressure levels.

    In the end, crap like this is why I took pretty much all of 2007 off from posting on this forum. I actually found the season far more enjoyable than I would have had I contributed regularly on here as I do today.
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    16-1? This guy is an idiot.
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    Whatever gets you through the night.......

    But there is a big world out there and some of us are interested in it.

    Patjew has to deal with the Chinese internet censors, we don't.

    That being said, if anyone's blood pressure level is affected by reading negative and hostile columns, then I fully agree - - by all means do not tempt fate by reading that kind of stuff.
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    Good point. The dissemination of this drivel only attracts attention if it is perused. I admit that I clicked on the link to the article and read it, but did not post a reply there. Going forward, I will not give these agenda-pushing mediots the time of day, as I now know which ones regurgitate such garbage opinion and pass it off as fact. I don't want to read any more spiteful pieces that could mar my enjoyment of the Patriots 2010 season.
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    In the meantime, the writer is an NFL HOF voter and, perhaps, bringing this kind of libel to light could cause him to lose his vote. Mr. Kraft has every right to prosecute for libel or pressure Goodell to drop this guy's selection credentials.

    I appreciate that you "don't want to read any more spiteful pieces that could mar my enjoyment of the Patriots 2010 season" and this is why threads are unique and can be skipped by any reader.
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    really hate to bring this up but do you have a link regarding this?
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    Look up Matt Estrella on google.com?
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    This is the rule they broke. If it was done from the stands they would have been legal. The NFL sent a memo out that summer about it an that is why the NFL came down so hard.

    The official NFL rule regarding coaching video states, "No video record ing devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches' booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game."

    NFL reportedly finds Patriots at fault - The Boston Globe
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    I just can't believe how much hatred this team inspires. I always try to just brush it off because they are my team, I am thinking that I am overly sensitive to comments from Chris Carter, Merrill Hodge, Marshall Faulk and others on TV...and writers like Bill Rhoden...

    But this article is ridiculous. It has been 3 years, it is a totally different team, this guy writes for local paper in a different city...I don't get it, how are the first 3 paragraphs even relevant? They are also inaccurate. I mean, 16-1? Is that a joke? The attacks just continue, I don't get why, is it really because Belichick is a jerk to the media?

    I can't imagine how that one factor causes this much animosity. Oh well, I am going to enjoy this team, and try to block it out.

    For what it's worth I thought the comments posted by Pats fans were great
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    They may not even be Pats fans, but just smart readers who are calling the writer to task.
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    Minor point...but as far as I know, the memo was sent out September of 2006.
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    By all means, be interested in it if that's your kind of thing. I just don't agree with putting it up on a forum where hundreds of people will click on the link to give the website, and the writer, hits. People even such as myself will do it (ex - sevengables_2207). When putting up this kind of stuff, then giving the natural negative opinion afterward, you're only lining the guys pockets and giving him incentive to push this garbage more. As for him getting kicked off the HOF voting, I'm sure that Kraft and/or the Patriots are going to be all over it... PatsFans.com thread or not.

    Anyway, I know I don't have any sort of responsibility or obligation to click on the thread. So I'll leave you guys that wish to get riled up over this sort of thing to it. :)
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    Wait, you don't? Yahoo pipes my friend..lol!
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    Thanx for the info and link ,Smessy...as everyone knows ,I'm compiling any and all information pertaining to Roger Goodell and his role in the attack on the New England Patriots Football Club. I'll be sure to cross reference Shapiro and HIS history starting in his teen years with that of Goodell's
    and see if there 's any commonality. Usually a blatant fabrication like this is prompted by some behind the scenes impetus.

    Once again,I must and WILL CONTINUE to repeat...

    Jets get in huge imbroglio over blatant cheating and out come the PURE LIES AND FABRICATIONS of the debunked Spygate story involving the PATRIOTS,unsolicited yet published again anyway....I ask you AGAIN, for the 10,000th time...

    QUITE A COINKY-DINKY

    When are the proper law enforcement authorities going to finally tear the stinking rotten corrupt lid off this festering cabal?
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    It's not libel uless it purports to be the truth rather than an attempt at humor, as in this case. He doesn't claim it's true. Newspapers have significant protection against libel (even the Herald article from Tomase was not libel as it claimed to be relaying allegations from a source not known to be false when printed).

    Whether parody, sarcasm or humor, these guys can say what they want to say. I'm sure Redskins fans love it, and that's who the Post probably caters too.

    The bottom line to all this is the Pats were caught videotaping teams. They broke the rules and the NFL did a lousy job of clarifying exactly what happened. Fans were left to speculate the degree of competitive advantage, so 31 teams worth of media will tag the Pats with this every opportunity they get. The more Pats fans lament, the more print these stories get. I just don't read the drivel as it is entirely within the law and it sells.
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    Exactly. Too many mentions in too short of a time span makes the possibility of coincidence statistically unlikely. This is happening, likely, because the Patriots are now proclaimed this season's top of the heap. You wouldn't be hearing this if the Patriots were 6 and 7. The Patriots have people who just don't like them. Winning your share plus the share of others (too many to some) will not sit well with many (especially when you consistently beat those the MSM adore/follow). The way the Patriots win -- without a team full of headline grabbing superstars -- is decidedly not going to sit well with some. BB is disliked by many in the MSM. "The Patriots win again through team effort and without memorable pre or post game quotes" is a headline the MSM doesn't like to write over and over. We should all prepare to see spygate brought up more and more if/when the Patriots move closer and closer to the SB.
    The MSM is a joke. The sports MSM is even more appalling. The sports MSM is largely a group of mediocre individuals....yet they are never fired (or rarely). Any profession that has employment so guaranteed is bound to, ultimately, turn out a bad product. Many Patriots fans try to avoid ESPN now....add King and the rest to the list.
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    An attempt at humor????Are you SERIOUS???? From Leonard Shapiro????Involving Bill Belichick??? Read this piece of excrement by Shapiro and THEN try selling me that load of B.S.....humor.[..krist, I've read everything now...

    Assistants, Practices Should Be Fair Game (washingtonpost.com)
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    Actually, in a weird and twisted sort of way, it seems the guy is actually trying to be complimentary towards what BB is doing this year. Sure, he's couching it all under the guise of BB's a cheat and all, but he certainly is giving credit to some of the things they are doing this year, and who they are doing it with.

    Enough with the damn "spygate" crap though, that was old two years ago.
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    I already read it. Read it again slowly if you are having trouble keeping up. And I'm not trying to sell you anything, nor would I attempt to do so given your educated response. Try to sound out the words and individual syllables. That might help.

    And I am not claiming it is funny to me, or in good taste. Humor in D.C. is probably a little different than it is in New England. If that proposition rocks your world, then deal with it. What we find funny about the Skins is probably not all that funny there. Humor is subjective, not objective. Search the phrase "know your audience" and 'humor' or 'joke" and expand your horizons. It's a brave new world.
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    I live just north of Olney for the past 12 years.

    Been in Maryland the past 23 years.

    I have no idea what you're trying to tell Joker.

    The only reason why people down here laugh about the Skins is because the alternative is to cry. Maybe folks here should have less of a sense of humor - - they could have run Snyder out of town 5-6 years ago. He certainly wouldn't have gotten away with his despicable shtick in New England for very long.

    Leonard Shapiro is a sharp guy and a good writer - - sort of the eminence gris of the Post. He wasn't attempting humor with his point there - - he was making a point. He was trying to be cute about it, but make no mistake - - he was making his point.
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    Good advice, Kontra. I made the mistake of reading the column and could not believe how irresponsible it was. I even tore the guy a new one on Facebook. Is this what we have to look forward to if the Pats continue to win? I hope not.
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    I'm afraid it is. :(
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    I suppose it's better than reading article after article about how the dynasty is over. :) That's like having to choose between a shotgun blast to the back and a knife to the heart though.
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