Discussion in 'Political Discussion' started by shmessy, Jul 21, 2008.
Haven't seen any threads on it lately.
He's also running for election himself - I wouldn't take much he says at face value. Don't get me wrong, I want us out of Iraq as much as the next person but quoting that guy is misleading at best.
Directly quoting the democratically elected President of Iraq is "misleading at best"? How so?
How is quoting the president of Iraq MISLEADING.
And Malili wasn't misquoted as charged by the RT.
I started a thread about the Der Spiegel article Sat. it went nowhere.
Sorry, man. Patters and FTW, please merge the two threads.
Today, the new statements issued by Maliki and his handlers restated the original comments from two days ago in an obvious message to show no equivocation whatsoever.
Wow. McCain and Bush are getting PWNED by the "neophyte". There is no way to put any lipstick on that pig for the RNC.
Just saying that he's saying what he thinks he needs to say and not necessarily what's best. Believe me I don't give a crap about the Iraqis but a lot of things are said that aren't the best option.
Help me out here.
Wasn't DEMOCRACY for the Iraqi people the goal of the Bush Administration in Iraq?
This is real confusing.
The last time you talked about someone getting owned you were declaring that high oil prices were because of speculators. Case closed. That turned out to be questionable at best and flat out false at worst.
Maliki is confident enough to feel the US troops won't be needed in the mid 2010- 2011 timeframe. Thanks God Bush didn't listen to BO and the defeatocrats when they said the surge was a failure, we couldn't win and we should leave and leave Iraq to their own devices.
Here is M Yon on why we can afford to leave:
from the op ed
Leaving due to avictory rather than defeat as Obama wanted is a good thing. I am glad Bush had intwegrity to take the popularoty hit in order to do the right thing not many pols would do that.
It's confusing because you didn't even make a point with your thread.
If your point was that Obama is right, then my response stands as is. If your point is we should leave because the Iraqis want us to, then if this opinion stands you are probably right. Of course that comes from someone (me) who isn't overly concerned about the Iraqi people.
Isn't he the guy who declared the surge had no chance of success???
Actually BO is clueless, must be scaring the hell out of our allies:
What a dork...
then there is this:
Pf13, it would be truly helpful to the rest of us if you could please attribute and give a link to whom you are quoting. You give some very thought provoking, long quotes in the previous post, but we have no idea whether those are your words or someone else's.
If they were my words I wouldn't have used quotes. Here are the links all come from national review they have been paying close attention to his trip'
Hope this helps. The guy is really an empty suit who mouths useless platitudes and had no clue about the timeline or details of our actions since 9-11. Maybe the comment about visiting 57 states wasn't just a slip.
Yeah I know what you mean,just tonight i saw a teflon john mccain ad blaming obama for $5 dollar gas.
Thank you, PF13! It is always important to the reader to know from whom they are reading an opinion. Further, because of legalities, Ian specifically requests that all ldirect long quotes from publications be attributed.
P.S. Perhaps those extra 7 states are somewhere in "Czechoslovakia"!
Teflon John McCain - now that is a good one.
The surge policy is a lot like Bush's war policy. It lacked vision. It was doomed to undermine Bush's strategy from the jump off.
Surge works: The government stands up, and voices that they want their country back, and get the F OUT!
Result: Victory declared, however no permanant troops, and no oil revenue.
Surge Fails: Chaos continues.
Result: Bush administration utterly fails on all fronts on the iraqi invasion. Our troops become targets in a civil war.
I guess when you start a war with a bunch of fear and lies, its tough to dig your way out.
Its like that old afterschool special shiz...
"You tell one lie, it leads to another....then you tell another to cover each other then you tell three lies....OH BROTHER.....you are in trouble up to your knees!"
Via e-mail, a prominent Republican strategist who occasionally provides advice to the McCain campaign said, simply, "We're fukced."
tells you all you need to know.
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