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Here is what Hugo Chavez said about George Bush at the U.N.

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  1. mikey

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/20/w...&en=0126207c69354c70&ei=5094&partner=homepage


    Mr. Chavez: "Yesterday, the devil came here,†Mr. Chávez said, alluding to Mr. Bush. “Right here. Right here. And it smells of sulfur still today, this table that I am now standing in front of.â€

    Then Mr. Chávez made the sign of the cross, brought his hands together as if in prayer and glanced toward the ceiling.

    Mr. Chavez: “Yesterday, ladies and gentlemen, from this rostrum, the president of the United States, the gentleman to whom I refer as the devil, came here, talking as if he owned the world. Truly. As the owner of the world.â€

    “I think we could call a psychiatrist to analyze yesterday’s statement by the president of the United States,†Mr. Chávez went on. “As the spokesman of imperialism, he came to share his nostrums, to try to preserve the current pattern of domination, exploitation and pillage of the peoples of the world.

    “Wherever he looks, he sees extremists. He looks at your color, and he says, ‘Oh, there’s an extremist.’ Evo Morales, the worthy president of Bolivia, looks like an extremist to him.â€

    “It smells of sulfur here, but God is with us, and I embrace you all,†he said. “May God blessus all. Good day to you.â€

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    Good, when sh!tbag scum pigs like Chavez and that little Runt from Iran get worked up like this it means our President is doing his job, they Hate Bush because Bush won't take their sh!t, they know if they f-ck with Bush they've got a fight on their hands.

    The muslims sh!t all over America during the nineties if they do it to Bush it means WAR.

    Pig Face Chavez wants another Democrat in the White House, he would have loved Boob Gore.
     
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    Sounds like he was plagerizing one of Howard Dean's speech's. :D
     
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    First your a Saddam apologist, now your a Chavez apologist..i bet you would have supported Stalin if he called Bush a devil eh?
     
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    Have you replace your Che poster with a Chavez poster now?
     
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    Gee 2 posts by Mikey tonight...
    Is he worried because Bush's approval numbers are higher? YUP!!!

    If they go higher than 44% expect the activity to intensify.
     
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    So...Does that mean people are giving 2nd thought to what has been accomplished is dealing with terror?
     
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    #87 Jersey

    You said 9/11 gave him a bump...so I'm asking why did he get that bump?

    You respond with a question to a question....that does not compute.

    Logic dictates that he got a bump because some people now realize
    that they have listening to the Cindy Sheehan / Michael Moore Sheeple...like yourself.

    Logic dictates that when taking a step back and seeing the real picture,
    they were hasty in their judgement.

    They now realize that had Kerry won the election...America would be the sheeple of the U.N. ... begging the world for love and compassion ... forgivable by pulling all troops from around the world back home.

    Once they succeed in America withdrawing troops at their command from Iraq...suicide bombers will be blowing their intestines all over the world until America retreats with all troops and Israel is dismantled forever.

    This is the scenario that will play out if demented spineless liberals ever get their way ... nothing will make liberals happier than to see the United States the social and monetary equal of the rest of the world....terrorists know this and that is why liberals are more dangerous to America than Islamic Fascists will ever be.
     
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    Why am I not surprised that a Fascist socialist(chavez), who leads a country where 51% of the population lives below the poverty line, he rigs elections and officials in his cabinet who speak out against him end up in jail is loved by NEM and mikey.
     
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    More words from an American traitor. Kill any heroic American soldiers yet today..? Because I know you're sure trying.

    Why don't you just move to Venezuela or Iran or anyplace else but here...? Or just join al Qaeda..? That way you can take up arms and attack Americans - both civilian and military - directly.
     
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    You really do not read anything. You cleary have no clue about what is going on in the world outside of the Dailykos.
     
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    Did Chavez say anything that is incorrect? Because I sure don't see any lies within his statement. So he compared Bush to the devil. Who cares? I'm only 98% sure that Bush isn't literally Satan come to end the world.

    Mr. Chavez: "Yesterday, the devil came here,” Mr. Chávez said, alluding to Mr. Bush. “Right here. Right here. And it smells of sulfur still today, this table that I am now standing in front of.”

    Okay, that's a metaphor.

    Mr. Chavez: “Yesterday, ladies and gentlemen, from this rostrum, the president of the United States, the gentleman to whom I refer as the devil, came here, talking as if he owned the world. Truly. As the owner of the world.”

    President Bush's words and actions, as with most U.S. Presidents since about Eisenhower, reflect a position that the rest of the world only exists to serve the U.S. interests.

    “I think we could call a psychiatrist to analyze yesterday’s statement by the president of the United States,” Mr. Chávez went on. “As the spokesman of imperialism, he came to share his nostrums, to try to preserve the current pattern of domination, exploitation and pillage of the peoples of the world.

    Okay. We have a sizeable nuclear weapon program and biological weapon program, yet demand that no other country be allowed to develop same. We set up shop in the Middle East to ensure we have cheap oil. We send military might into whichever region we want to bully. We subsidize businesses to shift labor from the U.S. to third world countries so the billion dollar Nike's of the world can pay the people who make the shoes 8 cents a day.
    No reasonable person can keep a straight face and say that Chavez is wrong here.

    “Wherever he looks, he sees extremists. He looks at your color, and he says, ‘Oh, there’s an extremist.’ Evo Morales, the worthy president of Bolivia, looks like an extremist to him.”

    Also factual. Any foreign head of state that doesn't have a U.S.-friendly foreign policy is an "extremist" or a "fascist" or "menace". No foreign head of state is a bigger threat than W. Our president doesn't give two sh!ts about spreading democracy. His aim, as well as his predecessors, is to install heads of state that support the U.S. international doctrine.

    “It smells of sulfur here, but God is with us, and I embrace you all,” he said. “May God bless us all. Good day to you.”

    Everything Chavez said is 100% true, with the possible exception of God being with us.

    Folks, I haven't been here for a few months, but I thought we were beyond the infantile "You're killing soldiers", "No, you're killing soldiers" game. It really makes you look, well, stupid and childish.

    Do those on the right believe that if those opposing Bush's foreign policy kept silent that Iraqis would sh!t in their pants and roll over while their country is being occupied by another nation!

    Do those on the left believe that if those supporting the U.S. occupation kept silent that our mule of a President is going to say "Holy Sh!t. I was wrong. Let's get the boys and girls home Tonto."
     
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    You know what's ever more stupid and childish..? Writing something like "President Bush's words and actions, as with most U.S. Presidents since about Eisenhower, reflect a position that the rest of the world only exists to serve the U.S. interests."
     
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    Wow. I'd love to hear an explanation. It's not even debateable, when you look at modern U.S. history, so it's not stupid. And I don't think a child would come up with that argument, so it's not childish. How old are you? I'm guessing from your posting history about 18. I don't mean to insult you, and you don't have to answer. You're opinions are still as valid as everybody else's, but if I'm right, I think it shows a lack of familiarity with history.

    As opposed to saying, "You and the liberals are killing soldiers. Why don't you join Al-Qaeda".

    Which is stupid, because soldiers are killed by people shooting at them and blowing them up, not by people thousands of miles away and childish, because reasonable adults are aware of this.

    It's like saying Republicans are reponsible for the deaths of 9/11, because they were in power in both branches, and failed to secure air space. It's a silly argument.

    Did the U.S. protest during Vietnam do more to kill soldiers or save soldiers' lives?
     
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    Oh, don't worry... you ignorance and arrogant presumptions don't insult me one bit.
    America is the leader of the free world, but we have sacrificed much in the past 50 years to ensure others enjoy the same freedoms. Does the phrase "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall?" have any special meaning to you...? I suppose JFK was just another U.S. President that saw the rest of the world as existing solely to serve American interests. What about Clinton...?
    If you think actions on the homefront do not affect the outcomes of battles on the other side of the world, then I would submit it is not I that needs to learn an awful lot about modern U.S. history.
    I am not sure if you mean "soldiers" or "American soldiers"... Assuming you mean "American soldiers" then the answer is a resounding fact that the protests did more to kill soldiers than it did to save them.
     
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    No clue on the process of playcalling by Josh McDaniels either.
     
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    I think any reasonable, Constitution-loving American who has studied American history over the past 50 years can cynically agree that the US purely acts in its own self interest. 'Spreading democracy' is a hollow phrase, when we constantly topple democracies and bully countries which do not match our foreign policy interests.

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    Fantastic post! Welcome back.

    I found his comments over the top for a supposed statesman. Sounded like he thought he was addressing his own people, not some multinational delegation.

    Regarding the immaturity thing: you know what I find really childish?

    The fact that Bush and Ahmadwhassisname refused to sit and listen to each others speech. Maybe they should debate after all!! As I said before, let them discuss religion. Better yet, Chavez seems like a devout Catholic, he needs to debate too.

    :singing:
     
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    Thanks, but I'm not staying. I just wanted to see the forum's take on Chavez, and to see what degree of civility is around. Discussing football is so much more fun.
     
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    The US certainly acts with its best interests in mind. I would hope so anyway. I would think that you'd worry about your family first, and about the guy living accross the street second. No offense to my neighbor, but I would expect him to do the same. That being said, and with the preface that the USA is no angel, no other country in the world has done more good than we have. Not only did we save Europe from Nazi domination, but we defeated the threat of communist world domination, liberating close to a Billion people in the process.
     

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