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    #12 Jersey

    I'm unsure why Obama "groupies" would have to justify this story since it took place in England, Harry, and whether it happens here in the US at some far future date and whether it would be related to a change in health care policies or attributed to a lack of proper hiring practices by the hospital in question would be a hard one to compare.

    I do know that it happens here already under the current health care policies, though, so I'll tell you what.....you make up an excuse for what happened in this video at this US hospital in 2008 and I'll come up with one for what happened in England, ok?

    YouTube - Woman dies in hospital waiting room
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    Women dies in waiting room:

    Nothing unusual there, the guy that was best man at my wedding died in his car at a red light.
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    22 year old with brain tumor dies in his hospital bed.

    Nothing unusual there. A nurse I used to work with died at home with breast cancer.
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    >>>Exactly<<<<<<
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    She died at home because her health insurance was cancelled when the hospital she worked for fired her for missing too much work between giving birth to her 5th child and her surgeries and chemo treatments which were started when her son was 4 weeks old and she couldn't get coverage afterwards.

    Exacty.
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    I didn't know that, she should have called 911 like the Illegal Aliens do.
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    I know it happened in England that's why I posted it, doesn't Prince barack want us to have that great free health care that they have over there???
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    England has National health care. No?
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    That was my point but I don't think they wanted to think about it...
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    Here's the point YOU don't want to think about, Harry.....had my friend been in England she could have at least gotten INTO a hospital - but not here.

    "Calling 991 like the illegal aliens do," is either sheer stupidity, willful ingnorance or malicious intent, Harry. ER treatment is NOT "medical treatment" which works for anything other than an acute onset of something. It doesn't offer chemo, it doesn't offer surgery, it doesn't offer dialysis, in fact, it doesn't offer anything but a bandaid on a boo-boo which is temporary at best - which is fine if all you've got is a broken arm or a kidney stone. Not so fine if you've got cancer or diabetes or COPD.

    The other point you seem to miss it that it's not "free." All an ER guarentees is that it will treat you without money upfront. It does not promise not to bill you for it or to send a credit collector after you or to eventually garnish your wages or put a lien on your house or auto. And trust me, it does all those things much more frequently than it "writes off" a loss.

    Being treated "regardless of your ability to pay" does not mean "free." It means "we'll treat you and bill you - and then we'll collect."
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    You're wrong, if it's about health care, it's about illegal aliens - at least accordingto Harry. I can guarentee you if the thread about health insurance and if Harry's in it, it's always gonna be about illegal aliens. He seems to think that no real American might not have insurance or access to health insurance. Unless, of course, it's a gang banger or a criminal or a deadbeat.....and they're pretty much in the same class as illegal aliens. He conveniently forgets that there are millions of so-called "middle class" families that don't have access to affordable insurance....and they DO own houses and autos and hold jobs - and should they, God forbid, get sick, the ER, hospital and/or physician who treats them will do everything they can to take possession of those things if they can't pay their $200,000.00 bill.
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    Speaking of socialized health care was in the VA hospital today, visiting my WWII vet neighbor.. now 90 years old..

    There are a lot of people using this service, haven't been in a while, but there are a lot of younger faces mixed with the older dudes.. the clinics seemed packed..

    Went up to his room, very clean.. seemed well cared for, could not tell it was a VA hospital.. probably what makes it good is its affiliation with Brown U and its medical program.. was there for two sets of doctors and the students who came in to see my friend.. without seeing this, one might think that we just kick our Vets to the curb.. but was impressed..

    Had not been there recently, and there are a lot of subtle improvements overall inpatient care..
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    How do Illegal Aliens and Gang Bangers get a Heart By Pass or Bullets removed, not the ones in Prison the ones on the street, how do the children of Illegal Aliens get health care somebody must be giving it to them we can't just let them drop dead, where have uninsured people been getting health and dental care from for the last fifty years, why do people like Obama want the government to run life and death decisions concerning your health needs when it is a known fact that they f-ck up everything they touch, will those pigs in congress get the same health care you I will get or do they have special doctors.

    CAN'T YOU OBAMA GROUPIES GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEADS THAT THE PEOPLE DO NOT WANT OBAMACARE THE PEOPLE DO NOT WANT IT

    IF OBAMACARE IS FORCED ONTO THE PEOPLE THERE WILL BE VIOLENCE ON THE STREETS OF THIS COUNTRY
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    There should have been violence after that rat.. b... stard George W. lied about WMD's and committed us to a trillion dollar war, and over 4000+ of our youngsters died, we destroyed a country and now our crooked defense contractors have to rebuild it..
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    It's pointless to talk to you, Harry. You sit there in your beachfront home that you inherited from your family and you have no idea that there are millions of people with rotting teeth and CHF that's so bad they can't walk across the room and NO ONE TREATS THEM!!! NO ONE!!! NOT ONE FATCATRATBASTRD sitting on the seashore even comprehends that it's happening because you know why? Because THEY DON'T WANT TO!!!

    CAN"T YOU CONSERVATIVE GROUPIES GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEADS THAT HALF OF THE PEOPLE WHO VOTE "I AM NOT HAPPY WITH THIS HEALTH CARE BILL" ARE PEOPLE WHO WANT IT TO BE MORE - NOT LESS.

    AND I'M SICK OF YOUR EMPTY THREATS OF VIOLENCE IN THE STREET LIKE PEOPLE ARE AFRAID OF YOU AND YOUR ILK. YOU'RE NO BETTER THAN YOUR HATED BILL AYERS OR YOUR DREADED BLACK PANTHERS WHO THREATENED STREET VIOLENCE WHEN THEY DIDN'T GET THEIR WAY EITHER. YANNO??? NOT ONE IOTA BETTER.

    In fact, you're worse....they at least were willing to fight to make things equal for everyone. You, on the other hand, will take to the streets to keep it for yourself.
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    Yeah, boy, can't risk that when we've got all this good stuff here in our exclusive and so-much-safer paying facilities.

    • A suicidal patient with a history of trying to hang herself was given a gown with ties and not monitored when she went to the bathroom, even though she required constant surveillance. She hanged herself from the faucet, but survived.

    • A suicidal patient who had swallowed a nail, a wire and a battery before admission was not monitored closely and subsequently swallowed a battery from a remote control, then broke a mirror and swallowed shards of glass.

    • A "severely" psychotic patient escaped from a locked unit. The report doesn't state that he was found.

    • An adolescent in a locked unit escaped and was found 11 days later.

    • A schizophrenic patient was allowed unescorted visits outside the facility despite hospital regulations to the contrary.

    Other past problems at the hospital include the rape of a patient by another patient while administrators slept, according to the AP, and a class-action lawsuit by employees who complained of substandard equipment, low staffing levels and unsanitary working conditions.


    Hospital Touted by TV's Dr. Drew Pinsky Cited for Violations - AOL News
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    I agree with a lot of that I can't understand why Beautiful Barack keeps all the Bush Sh!t going, he hasn't changed anything but suddenly all the protesters are quiet or making excuses for him.

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