Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by seven, Jan 31, 2012.
Harrison says Tyree was Asante Samuelâ€™s man | ProFootballTalk
Yeah........ That whole series wasn't Asante's best moments in football.
Most of us already knew (although there were some Asantefiles in denial) this having figured it all out before Asante landed in Honolulu on his which one of you suckas gonna pay me tour...
Make that whole game. Gave up a TD (again blown coverage), whiffed on a game ending pick, blew the coverage on Tyree and then basically stood and watched Rodney grappling with him...
And yet the kneejerks (yes we had them back then, too) all wanted to blame the RCB who did his job all game long until he was hung out to dry or the QB who was beat to **** but still managed to stake them to a lead with 2 minutes left to defend a 90 yard field...
Let's go get him!
Maybe Tyree was Asante's man, but I'd love to know why Rodney DIDN'T TRY TO HIT/PUNCH THE BALL OUT??
They always show that play in slow motion, but in real time, it was just a split-second jump and catch. How he held onto that ball is the real mystery.
And why didn't Harrison get to Manning on the blitz that caused the game winning TD catch ? And why didn't Jarvis Green sack Manning before he can throw the miracle pass to Tyree. And why didn't the refs call holding on the Giants O-Line on the same play ?
Who gives a crap, it's over, let's forget 2008 and move on. Who cares who ****ed up, it was the whole crappy defense that let them drive downfield.
If anyone needs any further evidence of how Harrison has forgotten the Patriot Way, they should take note of this. As Mo points out, this is not a great revelation of fact about Samuel's screwup on that play, but it sure tells you a lot about Harrison's character, or to be more precise, his lack of character. Blowing the biggest play of his career is pretty haunting, I guess. Keep that in mind on Sunday when he goes "all in" for the Giants.
Oh come on now....
Haven't we known this for years?
The Patriots needed 1 big play on that drive. There were plenty of guys - Samuel, Harrison, Meriweather, Green, Seymour, Thomas, Vrabel, etc - who had a chance or 2 or 3 to make it and none of them did.
He may have been Samuel's man, but Harrison was in position to stop the pass/catch and didn't. He needs to swallow his pride and admit he sucked along with Samuel and I believe that was Hobbs on the Burress TD, in the final drive.
This thread has bad karma attached to it, can we kill it? Please?
When I see that play, I'm actually amazed at how near-perfect Harrison played it. His timing, the hit, everything.
It was just a freak catch.
Well that makes it all ok
Doesn't matter that I couldn't knock one ball away guys, I wasn't supposed to be guarding him.
If we only had Sterling Moore there instead of that "bum" Harrison. I know.
I see the nonsensical responses are as would be expected. That's kind of sad, though, given the circumstances and history.
Fact is they almost had Manning sacked there but stuff happens. Can we discuss the 2012 SB instead?
That's a crock and just shows how little understanding you have of this game. Rodney has avoided tossing his teamates under the bus other than as a team for the last 4 years even as fellow mediot beat the dead horse. He isn't a player anymore, he's an analyst and as such he's well within his rights to analyze what happened. He explained what the coverage was and how the play unfolded. He did his job, and then did his best to cover for a guy who didn't. Jarvis Green had Eli in his grasp, and he failed to bring him down. He's owned and lived with that. Rodney was exactly where he was supposed to be in cover 4 man and he's lived with being scapcoated by idiots for 4 years. Asante opted to gamble and release his man assuming Eli would either be sacked or attempt to throw the ball away. He's never owned any of his shortcomings, never did throughout his career, still doesn't to this day. Rodney turned around and saw ONE wide open receiver in the middle of the field as Eli escaped the sack. Asante's man. He did the best he could to get to that abandoned man and it took a freak effort on Tyree's part to hang onto that ball. As Asante stood and watched from about 15 yards away. He didn't lose a wink of sleep since he was flying out to the Pro Bowl in the AM to sell himself to the highest bidder. Asante never got the Patriot Way.
Great...now we're turning on one another. So...no NYG fans around to argue with?
Kill this a$$inine thread!!!!!!!
I guess you missed the first TD. On the Giants first drive in the second half. Tyree's against Asante Samuel...
Superbowl XLII-David Tyree 6 yard TD catch - YouTube
Many Patsfans owe Ellis Hobbs III an apology. You know who you are.
Rodney played lights out for us when he was a Patriot. IMO, he can say whatever he wants, whenever he wants.
I did see him tell Brady to "take off the skirt" after he wanted the flag in the Ravens game. That did irk me.
But over all I have to say Rodney Harrison is one of my favorite Patriot defensive players of all time. I used to love watching him launch himself like a missile with perfect timing at receivers just as they caught the ball to knock it out and the receiver senseless.
...Those were the days.
So if Rodney Harrison says it...
Let's go get 'em!
As Mo pointed out, many of us stated this either right after the game or within hours of the game ending. There were tons of people blaming Ellis Hobbs (who was playing through a double sports hernia) and Rodney, but the reality is that Asante Samuel played like garbage that day. The Tyree TD. The interception that he missed and then laughed about. And then the miraculous catch by Tyree even though Manning should have been called down.
I think that Rodney has every right to call out Samuel now. It's part of his job as an analyst.
Wow, man, I don't have any problem with you taking a different view on this from me, but this (the bolded part) is uncalled for. I have great respect for your opinions, Mo, and have stated that explicitly in numerous posts (as few of those as I have contributed here!). I guess I did a pretty poor job expressing my feelings on this, but still your comment wasn't warranted here.
I'm well aware of the facts concerning this play, as much as are all of us poor schlubs sitting on the outside watching on TV, reading and listening to the commentary in the media, etc. I am in full agreement that Rodney did a great job both in that game and in his stint with the Patriots. But ... reacting to Eli's improvisation on a play such as that one was well within his responsibilities, and unfortunately for him and for all of us Pats fans he didn't get the job done. I don't blame him for what he did (thus my comment above about doing a poor job expresing my feelings), but for him to throw Assante under the bus at this point in time, in combination with the words I heard him say to Mut and Merloni last week, it makes me think he is kind of haunted by it. We all know your view on Assante, and I agree with you on that, including agreeing with your premise that the "root cause" of the problem on that play was Assante's screwup, not Harrison's. The fact that Assante didn't buy into the Patriot Way is not relevant to my original comment. So I take a back seat to very few Pats fans when it comes to my respect for what Harrison did in his time with the team. It is precisely because I have so much respect for what he did and how he appeared to conduct himself as a member of the team (in spite of the HGH episode ...) that caused me to react the way I did. I am just not a fan of those who throw their teammates (or coworkers in more conventional professional contexts) under the bus, I think it is wrong and pointless, irrespective of how many years it has been since the incident in question. Noone argues his "right" to do it, but to me it is not in keeping with the Patriot Way, and as such I don't care for it.
I still love ya', man!
His analysis is correct, he was a key member of a couple of SB teams.
BB says do your job, Asante didn't do his job, he was busy with the pay me tour.
This is the worst thread of all time.
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