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  1. patsfan13

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    This has gotten scant attention in the MSM. We sold weapons (assault rifles) to Mexican drug cartels. A couple of US Agents have been killed and ~ 150 Mexican police and an unknown number of Mexican civilians. Why are we supplying weapons to violent drug cartels? They were funneled through a gun store in AZ, perhaps to discredit gun ownership by blaming the violence on the guns?

    Why did Holder allow this?

    Pajamas Media » The Definitive Scandal: ‘Gunwalker’ Much Worse Than ‘Iran-Contra’



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    Israpundit » Blog Archive » Obama Administration’s “Gunwalker” Turns U.S. into Sponsor of Terrorism


    Now we are in the phase of seeing how high up in the administration this goes.






    Crazy stupid, How many more will die from this affair?
     
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    The MSM is barely touching it because it would be Obama's Iran-Contra - this chump is so blessed.
     
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    The BATFE is an evil organization that needs to be disbanded.

    This project Gunrunner was an evil illegal campaign to create anti gun propaganda in order to help the goal of the ATF to reinstate the Assault Weapons Ban, and to disarm the sheeple as a whole.

    Worthless bunch of murdering thugs.

    This goes much higher then the leadership of the ATF, Holder should be brought up on charges of murder.
     
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    You mean the same Iran-Contra that Reagan got a pass on..
     
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    To say it has been ignored by the press is false, have been reading about it for a while now.. it is pretty much all over the place if you are paying attention..

    There are something like a 1,000 news articles out there, but folks have been focusing on the big stuff like Lady Gaga or Weiner.. it looks like a plan gone seriously wrong.

    Pajama's media is so much more reliable..

    Fast and furious case - Google Search
     
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    Do you mean the media has been focusing on Lady Gaga? I just learned about this yesterday and most of what google brings up is only hours old.

    How long have you been reading about it? This would seem to be the kind of story an active member of a political forum would have brought up. Just curious.

    Do you think this is comparable to Iran-Contra?
     
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    Have been aware of this for several months now, Issa has been hot on it.. from what I read it has been very well covered, there is stuff out there just about every day. Do not bring up a lot of things, that is a personal choice.. if every topic came across that was of interest it would be my board, no one elses.. do not have to justify what I do or do not post.

    Iran Contra was much bigger on the world stage and was intended to topple regimes.. dealing with governments with whom there was an arms embargo with.. and funneling the money to the Contra's who were savages... it was also whitewashed by congress, if this happened in this day and age Reagan would have been impeached...

    Gunrunner or Fast and Furious is a classic f... up, and had nothing but unintended consequences.. those involved should be held accountable.
     
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    The US has been providing arms to violent drug gangs in the views of lefties this is much less serious that funding anti communist.

    In truth this is more serious than Iran Contra.


    If this had been done by a conservative administration the MSM would be on this 24/7 for months now.
     
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    Than you cannot begin to comprehend Iran Contra.. sending missile systems to Iran, with whom we had an arms embargo, is pretty significant and then using the money for arming the contra's to slaughter their own people is heinous..

    The Conservative press has been pretty silent about this as well.. so try hard not to make it so partisan..

    This has been out there for while now, and up to recently it was back page news everywhere..
     
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    No the conservative blogsphere has been all over this for months. The MSM is trying not to notice to protect the administration.
     
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    I'm already guilty of participating but please lets not hijack this into an Iran-Contra thread the way we turned the Weiner thread into a Vitter, et al thread.

    This dumb ass program didn't stop even after it was discovered arms were going to the bad guys. Why wasn't this a top story in the main stream media? I can sort of understand MSNBC ignoring it you would have thought Fox would have been all over this.
     
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    What did Holder know and when did he know it?

    What did Obama know about this criminal activity?

    Who approved this?
     
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    First read about when the guy who was using a jet ski in Texas who was killed by illegals.. I believe that was the first time I read about.

    It is a stupid idea and people should be held accountable..
     
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    The conservative blogosphere is not the conservative press which has ignored it as well..
     
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    Lets look at Iran Contra.. it involved four countries.. Israel, Iran, Nicaragua and the United States.. The US used Israel as an intermediary to sell weapons to Iran(with which we had an arms embargo).. the money was used to fund the Contra's, who savaged the Nicaraguan population.. we wanted regime change there(sound familiar). Reagan openly defied the "Boland Amendment" that outlawed any intervention by the miliitary or CIA in Nicaragua.

    Lets look at Gunrunner, it involved letting guns "walk" so they could be followed to find out about where they would lead, a very stupid idea... but it is not an international incident... it is a stupid ATF decision. There was no defiance of an arms embargo, there was not violation of a specific amendment passed by Congress... it was a stupid move.
     

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