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  1. Mrs.PatsFanInVa

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    Hint: Think "hypocritical."
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    Michelle Obama?
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    The Pope............
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    I saw that this morning.

    Maybe Levi was gay?
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    THOUSANDS of years of thinking about marriage???

    thats frickin rich......

    tell that to the Mormons...Or Mitt's Grandfather. Unless he is a few thousand years old, I assume his father being born in a polygamy commune In Mexico says all we need to know about how long traditional marriage was acceptable.

    Not sure if the quoted person is aware that as long ago as 1967, in some states blacks and whites couldn't get married. was THAT the tradition we are trying to preserve?

    Also, whoever said this thinks Dick Cheney is a terrible father. After all he failed to keep his daughter straight.



    Its not shocking that the hard core right wingers hate "Love"


    Marriage is just a word, get over it. What you do with that word is what defines your union.
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    Bristol talking about 'traditional marriage'....

    where do I start?
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    If that is here opinion then what is the problem ... is she not entitled to that opinion? Perhaps she can think that while also not be providing that. You know like a parent explaining that college is a good thing even though they did not go to college themselves. She's still young and her views are evolving as like most of us when we were in our 20's.

    why the hate?
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    Assumed conservative woman = lightning rod of Leftist hate
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    Where did I say "hate?"

    Why the assumption of hatred?
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    Why should her opinion be immune from criticism?

    Also, she claims, "we know that in general kids do better growing up in a mother/father home" -- does she have evidence of that?

    and where's the hate?
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    right, criticism her opinion = hate

    but bigotry and limiting of people's rights is perfectly fine with you and so many others on the right.
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    Since when? Please provide an example of what you consider limiting of rights and bigotry?
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    You didn't post it because you're a fan of hers ... :eek:
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    No, I'm not a fan of hers.....but that doesn't mean I "hate" her. On the contrary, I feel an affinity with her due to our having walked in one another's shoes, so to speak. I'd like to like her, in fact. I think she'd make a great spokeperson for single moms due to her popularity and her situation and her access to media.

    What I am is disappointed that she prefers to distance herself from her situation and from others in a similar situation by pretending she's somehow different from them rather than stepping up and acting like a believable role model for them.
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    Maybe she's using her experience to counsel others to try to not emulate her and, where possible, taken an easier route than she had? Why because someone had a tough road do they have to be a role model by making that tough road seem not so tough? Perhaps aversion is the best solution???
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    I don't get the point and I do get what she is saying.

    First she is saying how nice that Obama's daughters get to change the country ... barf.

    It is entirely possible Mrs. PF that though it does not fit her case she still believes children should aspire to be married and have children that way. I mean that's her opinion ... because she did not do it that way does not mean she should not teach it. Perhaps she feels it irresponsible to teach kids it's okay to have kids anytime they want.

    Like I said it's her opinion and she is entitled to it.
    You have a problem with her and her mother ... must be a female thing.
    I don't think like them but i have no problem in how they air their opinions.
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    Just because you choose to take a "hard road," (and I am not convinced that being smart enough not to compound a pregnancy mistake with what you know will be a marriage mistake is choosing the "hard" road) that does not make it the "wrong" road. It does not mean you are not a good parent or that your child is suffering from your decision.

    Generally, when people have a "choice" (and some do not have it to make) and they chose the road less traveled they do so because they know it will work for them and they are determined that it be so. A woman who decides to have a child out of wedlock, a gay couple who decides to adopt or have an in-vitro pregnancy, they've weighed the options and examined the pitfalls and are aware of the difficulties they face - and they make good parents because they are determined to do so. To say that the child of a non-traditional family is bound to suffer is to tell that child he/she was not being given the best possible life that his/her parent(s) could offer. How many of us bear our children with that intention? How many of us do not strive to give them that very thing? Single parents, gay parents, they are no different than the more traditional parents are in that respect and their odds are just as good as any of succeeding.
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    There's a wealth of studies that disagree with your anecdote. A "traditional" household is the number one way to combat childhood poverty.
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    Male & Female engage in sexual union, the union results in another human being, the female cares for the child, the male provides, they both teach the child, the child grows and leaves the nest.
    It's What They Call NATURE, the white conservative christians didn't invent it the creator, the god, or THE BIG BANG created it, without it there would be nothing.
    Harry
    May 11,2012
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    And according to you guys, poverty should have nothing to do with your chances of success.

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