Gronk going under 4TH TIME

[tonyto3690]

They put the plate in because they hoped it'd help him be ready for the playoffs.

I don't understand why they don't just take out the plate and let it heal naturally. Broken bones that reknit naturally end up stronger than they originally were.

Instead we hear nothing but how his arm is infected and the stupid freaking plate is an issue.

Take it out, bite the bullet and let it heal instead of potentially having a faulty arm for the rest of his career.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

I don't understand why they don't just take out the plate and let it heal naturally. Broken bones that reknit naturally end up stronger than they originally were.
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Not the case.

Despite one misconception, there is no evidence that a bone that breaks will heal to be stronger than it was before.

there may be a brief period in the healing process when the fracture site is stronger than the surrounding bone. But they later reach equal strength, and the fracture site is no more or less likely to break again

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/19/health/19really.html?_r=0

 

[Nordberg]

This is old news. He was scheduled to have the surgery anyway.

But I can't understand why so many of you are looking the other way on the fact that alcohol dilutes the effects of antibiotics big time.

Every time I hear about Gronk this offseason he's out drinking.

 

[Raymond]

This is old news. He was scheduled to have the surgery anyway.

But I can't understand why so many of you are looking the other way on the fact that alcohol dilutes the effects of antibiotics big time.

Every time I hear about Gronk this offseason he's out drinking.

Really? Name the dates and locations.

 

[Joker]

Really? Name the dates and locations.

it's the internet, Ray. "I saw Gronk online on You Tube....that's
what he does all the time!!!"....it will never end...only get worse...entropy

 

[patfanken]

Played in all 17 games his rookie year (16 regular season and 1 playoff game)

I thoughts so, but on the NFL .com site they only had him playing 12 game that year. I was suckered again.

 

[Nordberg]

Really? Name the dates and locations.

Where should I start?

gronk drinking - Google Search

 

[Joker]

so you knew this already and just posted your first as a lead-in...great...so you are a Gronk hater then, obviously...you'll fit right in with all the rest of the (insert Patriot player) haters around here...just to sorta answer your fake question though, here's a report of Gronk at recent Patriots practices...

Rob Gronkowski reportedly 'looks great' for Patriots - NFL.com

That hasn't stopped Gronk from participating in New England's offseason program, where he "looks great," a source told ESPNBoston's Mike Reiss

so there's one media report of Gronk taking care of business...I'm sure there's plenty more on Google but I don't have the desire to argue this with an agenda driven hater.

 

[Brady2Moss]

Ludicrous - Simply Ludicrous. Before he broke his arm in game 11 Gronkowski had played in 35 games in a row over 3 years.(38 if you include the playoffs. He's only missed 9 games total over those 3 years. (4 games his rookie year and 5 games last year)

There is a clique of whining fans that sometimes embarrass me with their constant wringing of their hands at every friggin' negative story. Like the world is going to end, and the Pats are going to hell in a hand basket

And for the record the Pats could lose BOTH Gronk and Hernandez, and STILL have the best TE's in the division.

But since breaking his arm once he has not only broken it again but also had 4 surgeries it's a problem and it needs to not be swept under the rug. It is not normal.

It is really strange how anyone that thinks a negative story is, gasp, a negative development for the Patriots is considered a whiner. It is actually embarrassing that people on here refuse to objectively look at anything even to say that 4 surgeries on a twice broken arm isn't a problem.

If you want to say all the FA signings are good, great, or let's wait and see fine. Same thing with draft picks. But this is taking the ignoring of anything negative about the Patriots to a whole new level. A guy in here was saying that 4 surgeries is fine, but 5 is where the worrying should start and then compares it to the situation of Brady who only had 2 surgeries.

No one is acting like the Patriots are "screwed" to any level beyond what not having Gronk 100% means for this team.

And I'm sorry but having the best tight ends without Gronk/Hernandez in one of the worst, if not worst, division in football is not reassuring by any means. No one on the Patriots roster cares about division championships.

 

[stcjones]

I think it may have happened during one too many kegstands or that cartwheel he did during the SB party week..... In all honesty....all of this could be a total "non-story" that will end once the main season starts and he is out there knocking people's heads off and catching insane passes like the "old Gronk".....or it could result in a lingering injury situation that could jeapordize his career. In all seriousness....repetitive infections are no laughing matter....is it osteomyelitis? No one has said......Either way he has a VERY unstable forearm on that side.....and we can only hope and pray that the "Ole'" Gronk comes back to us this year....healthy and ready to CONTRIBUTE!!! GO PATS!

True, but a break is a break it wasn't his fault and was bound to happen playing a high impact sport without fully healing the bone. For a bone to be totally healed it takes about 12 weeks, it will appear healed via xray after 6-8 weeks (original reported recovery time) and for all intents and purposes is healed for a normal human being. For a guy that throws 260 pounds on the arm they should've waited the full 12 weeks.

I hope they take the new one out it'll be another pressure-point time bomb waiting to crack the bone.

 

[ausbacker]

But since breaking his arm once he has not only broken it again but also had 4 surgeries it's a problem and it needs to not be swept under the rug. It is not normal.

It is really strange how anyone that thinks a negative story is, gasp, a negative development for the Patriots is considered a whiner. It is actually embarrassing that people on here refuse to objectively look at anything even to say that 4 surgeries on a twice broken arm isn't a problem.

If you want to say all the FA signings are good, great, or let's wait and see fine. Same thing with draft picks. But this is taking the ignoring of anything negative about the Patriots to a whole new level. A guy in here was saying that 4 surgeries is fine, but 5 is where the worrying should start and then compares it to the situation of Brady who only had 2 surgeries.

No one is acting like the Patriots are "screwed" to any level beyond what not having Gronk 100% means for this team.

And I'm sorry but having the best tight ends without Gronk/Hernandez in one of the worst, if not worst, division in football is not reassuring by any means. No one on the Patriots roster cares about division championships.

Without sounding like a pompous know it all, I've been through a similar situation to what Gronk is experiencing (albeit a different lever). The difference between Gronk and my injury was my injury was a career ending fracture during a sporting mishap. I followed the specialist advice I was given by a team of doctors and physicians to the nth degree and still required further and multiple corrective surgeries. Some times, these things just happen.

Gronk is young and has the benefit of age on his side. For every advancement in medical science, we still need to realise that the body is a riddle and it doesn't work as perfectly as we would like it to all the time.

 

[Brady2Moss]

Without sounding like a pompous know it all, I've been through a similar situation to what Gronk is experiencing (albeit a different lever). The difference between Gronk and my injury was my injury was a career ending fracture during a sporting mishap. I followed the specialist advice I was given by a team of doctors and physicians to the nth degree and still required further and multiple corrective surgeries. Some times, these things just happen.

Gronk is young and has the benefit of age on his side. For every advancement in medical science, we still need to realise that the body is a riddle and it doesn't work as perfectly as we would like it to all the time.

Very true, obviously things are not going perfectly with Gronk right now, he has youth on his side but this is concerning he might be fine or he might be screwed. All I'm saying is it is wrong to ridicule those that think its a problem and sweep this stuff under the rug.

 

[ausbacker]

Very true, obviously things are not going perfectly with Gronk right now, he has youth on his side but this is concerning he might be fine or he might be screwed. All I'm saying is it is wrong to ridicule those that think its a problem and sweep this stuff under the rug.

It should be concerning because it is. It will become more concerning as the season draws near, however, most people are overlooking the more pressing issue and that is Gronk's long term health. That's the most important issue for mine.

 

[BSR]

Very true, obviously things are not going perfectly with Gronk right now, he has youth on his side but this is concerning he might be fine or he might be screwed. All I'm saying is it is wrong to ridicule those that think its a problem and sweep this stuff under the rug.

You sound like my wife who becomes hysterical the moment any little thing goes astray. There is no problem at this point, because the point where it is a problem hasn't come yet. There is merely the chance for a problem. There is nothing anyone can do about it right now, so wringing your hands over it is pointless. You can't go through life in fear of the worst as you will drive everyone else around you nuts and look weak.

 

[JoeSixPat]

This is no big deal - in fact I think it's part of a "buy 3 get the 4th surgery free" so it's kindof tough to fault him for taking advantage of that.

 

[captain stone]

Ludicrous - Simply Ludicrous. Before he broke his arm in game 11 Gronkowski had played in 35 games in a row over 3 years.(38 if you include the playoffs. He's only missed 9 games total over those 3 years. (4 games his rookie year and 5 games last year)

There is a clique of whining fans that sometimes embarrass me with their constant wringing of their hands at every friggin' negative story. Like the world is going to end, and the Pats are going to hell in a hand basket.

I might be wrong, but I think that Clonamery was kidding.

 

[supafly]

There is no problem at this point, because the point where it is a problem hasn't come yet. There is merely the chance for a problem. There is nothing anyone can do about it right now, so wringing your hands over it is pointless. You can't go through life in fear of the worst as you will drive everyone else around you nuts and look weak.

I think we all need to remember that there isn't always a line in the sand between the chicken littles and the homers. In other words, acting worried or showing concern is also part of the human nature--as long as it's not beaten into the ground (as some posters will do).

In the case of Gronk, I'd have to say that you'd be lying if you claimed that you weren't "worried" or "concerned."

As far as "not having a problem yet," I'd have to respectfully disagree. Of course there's a problem...there's been a problem for almost 6 months now, with another surgery and recovery period scheduled in the upcoming future. In all reality, the problem hasn't subsided in the least. It has actually gotten worse, no?

I'd agree with you that we shouldn't be up all night worrying, but to say that we as fans shouldn't be concerned would be nothing more than living in a fairy tale land. I personally would have to think that everything will be okay for the future down the road, but there will be concern for the 2013 season.

 

[Brady2Moss]

You sound like my wife who becomes hysterical the moment any little thing goes astray. There is no problem at this point, because the point where it is a problem hasn't come yet. There is merely the chance for a problem. There is nothing anyone can do about it right now, so wringing your hands over it is pointless. You can't go through life in fear of the worst as you will drive everyone else around you nuts and look weak.

There is a problem, he has an infection in his bone or around it. That can lead to a lot of complications and as you know is causing additional surgeries.

I'm not wringing my hands others have said Gronk will never be the same and some act like there is no problem such as yourself. I merely was pointing out its a joke to ridicule anyone that sees this as a problem because it certainly is one.

And obviously none of us can do anything about it, it is a forum though to discuss things we have no control over.

 

[JMarr]

I begrudgingly agree with this, both physically and mentally, he may never be the same. I doubt he plays with the same reckless abandon, doubt he will block like he used to. He reminds me so mych of Jeremy Shockey, it's almost eerie. Comes in like a monsoon, takes the football world by storm, and then because of his style of play, injuries pile on. First ankle surgery, and now 4 arm surgeries. And he's only 23.

I know the 4th surgery was supposed to happen anyway, but it doesn't make me feel good.

I hope you're wrong, but to me it's entirely possible that he'll never be the same. Both the Pats braintrust and Gronk screwed the pooch on this one:

Coaches rushed him back when it wasn't necessary yet, then almost immediately after getting the the game with a still healing bone, they throw an out pattern to him. Brady throws it high and towards the sideline where only Gronk can get it. Problem is, the throw's hair too wide and Gronk stupidly goes up to get it, trying to make a circus catch on a ball where he's probably going to land out of bounds anyway. I applaud his effort and the way he plays the game, but I knew the minute I saw him go up that he was going to land on the arm. Kind of stupid of him if you ask me.

Tough break, but it was also preventable, and if Gronk doesn't come back healthy this year (and a lot of posters seem seem to be in denial about that possibility) then the Pats are pretty much cooked this year.

 

[Frezo]

This is no big deal - in fact I think it's part of a "buy 3 get the 4th surgery free" so it's kindof tough to fault him for taking advantage of that.

Maybe he really digs the anesthesia.