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  1. PatriotsReign

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    When you think about all the greatest coaches in NFL history, there is one commonality....

    A reserved personality

    Think about it....

    Vince Lombardi
    Bud Grant
    Tom Landry
    Chuck Noll
    Bill Belichick
    Joe Gibbs
    Paul Brown

    None of them went around shooting their mouths off or jumped up & down on the sidelines (Pete Carroll). They all just "did their jobs".

    When I listen to Rex or Pete Carroll, it makes me squirm. Pete is a great guy, but why is he always fumbling and mumbling for words? Rex is just plain diarrhea-mouth.

    It just makes me grateful we have a coach like Bill Belichick.
     
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    Here's another commonality: "Not Jim Caldwell."
     
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    I don't think there has ever been a coach that tries to convince everyoen how great his team is and win games in the media, that has ever won anything.
    A few have tried, none have succeeded.
     
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    I'm also pretty sure none of them were stupid enough to post a foot fetish video to Youtube either.
     
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    ... or at least they didn't let their wives post one ... i think that was the case.
     
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    Not that there's anything wrong with that :rolleyes:
     
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    You need to learn more about Vince Lombardi.
     
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    If you consider the other commonalities, most are NFL historians too! They have studied the game and they analyze the numbers. They use techniques to motivate their players from within, not with external factors.

    If we could list all the commonalities, I highly doubt Rex would have many of them.
     
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    I did not say they had/have the exact same personality, I said commonalities shmessy. And I originally wrote,

    "When you think about (almost) all the greatest coaches in NFL history, there is one commonality...."

    But decided to delete the "(almost)" because I figured no one would be so literal as to attempt to find the one exception...guess I was wrong, huh?:p
     
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    Yeah but you listed Lombardi specifically giving some of us a "wth" moment. LOL

    I think the commonality is winning, personally. I think looking at anything beyond that, especially across too many different NFL eras is a mistake.
     
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    It was the "reserved personality" part that hit me.
     
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    Lombardi was a major promoter of football as a sport and pretty accessible to the media. He didn't really bluster publicly, though, and was a spiritual man. Jerry Kramer's book and the recent ESPN Classic bio-documentary based on the footage found by NFL Films is really revealing. But Lombardi was not a bonehead like Rex Ryan or his father (who never won as a head coach.)

    The premise is a good one. I'd add Tony Dungy to the list and maybe Dick Vermeil. Both guys built programs for multi-year success. The blowhards - Ditka, Gruden, Ryan, Buddy Ryan, Billick - guys who talked too much and built ill will in the profession - have short term success but burn out.
     
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    This is exactly the premise of this thread. I guess some like to look for where a post is wrong rather than just looking a general point being made.

    Dungy is another great example, I agree.
     
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    Good post.

    Add Bill Walsh there too.
     
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    Yes indeed. Reserved is good. Catatonic is not.
     
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    Caldwell should be fired...but something tells me it won't happen.
     
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    Particularly Vince Lombardi: a very quiet guy. :bricks:
     
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    Re-read the thread. Someone already made that point. And a counter to that point was also made.

    ok chumly?

    Think about the general point of the thread and it can't be denied.

    NONE OF THE GREATEST COACHES WERE BLOWHARDS, PERIOD.

    :bricks:

    P.S. The guy on your avatar's hat is on crooked...fix it
     
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    It's ironic, since the fanbases don't like each other much these days at least, but person on that list whose persona most closely resembles BB's is the Steelers coach, "Chas" Noll. Cerebral, reserved, a bit antisocial/aloof in public, non-nonsense, not a "players coach", and of course completely dominant in his era. I've always wondered how fellow Steelers fans can "hate" BB knowing they had a virtual clone 30 years earlier in Chuck Noll?

    One of my favorite quotes of all time comes from Noll, after one of his first training camps on a talent-starved team:

    "The hard part is not deciding who to cut, but when to stop."​
     
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