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  1. ctpatsfan77

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    ESPN has the breakdown of voting. (Player(s) with the most votes are first-team, next highest are second-team).

    Wide Receivers (2/team)
    Andre Johnson, Houston, 45; Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona, 21; Steve Smith, Carolina, 16; Wes Welker, New England, 6; Anquan Boldin, Arizona, 5; Roddy White, Atlanta, 4; Brandon Marshall, Denver, 1; Randy Moss, New England, 1; Calvin Johnson, Detroit, 1.

    Guards (1/team)
    Steve Hutchinson, Minnesota, 40; Chris Snee, NY Giants, 32; Kris Dielman, San Diego, 10; Alan Faneca, NY Jets, 7; Logan Mankins, New England, 4; Leonard Davis, Dallas, 2; Travelle Wharton, Carolina, 2; Harvey Dahl, Atlanta, 1; Ben Grubbs, Baltimore, 1; Justin Smiley, Miami, 1.

    Placekicker (1/team)
    Stephen Gostkowski, New England, 28; John Carney, NY Giants, 13; Rob Bironas, Tennessee, 3; Jason Hanson, Detroit, 3; Phil Dawson, Cleveland, 2; Jason Elam, Atlanta, 1.

    y-Inside Linebacker (2/team)
    Ray Lewis, Baltimore, 39; Jon Beason, Carolina, 18; Patrick Willis, San Francisco, 17; James Farrior, Pittsburgh, 12; London Fletcher, Washington, 8; Barrett Ruud, Tampa Bay, 1; James Harrison, Pittsburgh, 1; Stewart Bradley, Philadelphia, 1; Bart Scott, Baltimore, 1; Jerod Mayo, New England, 1.
     
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    Someone at ESPN needs a little proofreading

    "Asante Samuel, New England, 3"
     
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    mayo should have made one of the teams

    another who cares selection
     
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    these types of awards are always given to players with the most hype, not necessarily the best player. i cant buy this stuff.
     
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    they should try to extend Ghost sometime next season. let's not repeat the Asante error by not moving early and ending up losing both a HOF Kicker (#4) and a very, very good Gostkowski back to back.
     
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    In general terms, I agree with you, except that I'd wait until it's clear whether or not 2010 will be uncapped or not. If it's not, then it's counterproductive--he'd be an RFA in 2010, and the Pats could give him a better deal (i.e., Gostkowski-friendlier and Pats-friendlier) then, or give him a tender that would require major compensation (a 1 or even a 1 and 3).
     
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    You think Mayo is already one of the four best inside linebackers in the NFL?

    He was no doubt the rookie of the year, but come on.
     
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    Well, one voter thought he was one of the two best ILBs this year. . . .
     
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    They were wrong. Probably cut from the same mold of the guy who put Keith Rivers on his ROY ballot (mistake or not).
     
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    Yeah. Who is better? Ray Lewis? This is 2008, not 2000.

    Biggest problem is comparing 3-4 and 4-3 ILB
     
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    Yes, Ray Lewis is better. As are Beason and Willis.

    Look, we all love Jerod Mayo, and I agree he already is a fantastic player and is only going to get better, but saying he's already one of the very top ILBs in the NFL is ridiculous.
     
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    i dont know about ray lewis, i KNOW willis is better, and i would say beason is not really better in such a clear cut way
     
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    good point, tho if it's capped it might be hard to keep him. come to think of it, the pats must be running "cap/no-cap" scenarios for the entire roster.
     
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    ...proving that one needs neither brains nor knowledge of football to be considered among the "media elite" of the NFL world...
     
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    So will we ever figure out exactly why the 5th best QB in football this year is the MVP and 1st team all pro?
     
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    BRAVO BRAVO to Gostkowski

    i was hoping for Mayo too
     
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    nah, mayo is a rookie. he had no chance this year. future years, he hopefully will.
     
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