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  1. manxman2601

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    Being based in the UK, I can probably hit the interwebs earlier than you snooze heads in the States. Some of his final mock is leaking so I'll update with what I can find so far...Expect a run on QB's by the way.

    1. Panthers Cam Newton
    2. Broncos Von Miller
    3. Bills Marcell Dareus
    7. 49'ers Blaine Gabbert
    8. Titans Jake Locker
    10. Redskins Christian Ponder
    11. Texans Aldon Smith
    12. Vikings Andy Dalton
    20. Bucs Robert Quinn
    25. Seahawks Prince Amukamara
    26. Ravens JJ Watt

    Nothing on the Pats picks yet, but boy is he predicting some fallers. He's either going to look incredibly prescient with some of these picks or is blowing his reputation out of the water (providing that is these leaks are accurate).

    Will update if I can find out anymore.
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    WOW...Amukamara at 25 and Watt at 26?! totally shocked...really anxious on what his predicitions for the Pats are!
    Just read he's predicting Smith to the Cowboys.
    What's his hit rate with the final mock?
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    Here is the whole thing

    1. Panthers Cam Newton
    2. Broncos Von Miller
    3. Bills Marcell Dareus
    4. Bengals A.J. Green
    5. Cardinals Patrick Peterson
    6. Browns Julio Jones
    7. 49'ers Blaine Gabbert
    8. Titans Jake Locker
    9. Cowboys Tyron Smith
    10. Redskins Christian Ponder
    11. Texans Aldon Smith
    12. Vikings Andy Dalton
    13. Lions Nick Fairley
    14. Rams Mark Ingram
    15. Dolphins Mike Pouncey
    16. Jaguars Ryan Kerrigan
    17. Patriots Cameron Jordan
    18. Chargers Corey Liuget
    19. Giants Nate Solder
    20. Bucs Robert Quinn
    21. Chiefs Gabe Carimi
    22. Colts Anthony Castonzo
    23. Eagles Jimmy Smith
    24. Saints Adrian Clayborn
    25. Seahawks Prince Amukamara
    26. Ravens JJ Watt
    27. Falcons Phil Taylor
    28. Patriots Danny Watkins
    29. Bears Marvin Austin
    30. Jets Derrick Sherrod
    31. Steelers Cameron Heyward
    32. Packers Aaron Williams
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    Thankyou - saved some work.


    So Bowers @33? Probably not if we've passed on him twice.

    I could live with Jordan and Watkins in the first.
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    Can't see Robert Quinn falling to 20 unless there's something we're not aware about. Surprised that Muhammad Willkerson has fallen out of the 1st round as well, although I'd love for us to nab him at 33
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    5 QB's in the top 12? WOW
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    No way that's happening...
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    I think it's very logical. This way, the teams in need of a QB don't risk Miami or Seattle grabbing a QB in the first, don't have to give up picks in trading back into the first and don't risk being upstaged by other teams being more bold in trades. The only thing I'm surprised about is Gosselin not having Miami take a sixth QB because with no pick in the second, they risk missing out altogether.

    These teams might be missing out on quality players in the high first round but their future success will be defined by their QBs, not their rookie DE or CB. And as plenty have noted here, there's value to be had in the second round.

    It'll screw the trade market in the bottom of the first though.
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    If there's 4 qb's in the Top 16, I'll bet we trade back from 17 to get their 2nd this year and 1st next year for some team wanting the 5th one. Thought we would do it at 28. Might do it earlier. I just don't see Danny Watkins as a 1st rounder. We'll see. I was hoping to trade back from 33 and get him 40-45. He will be 27 before he plays a down in the NFL.
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    Which = everyone trying to trade down, and everyone trying to trade into the late first to get the players dropping.

    Should be fun, If true #33 will be worth a bounty for the 2nd day.
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    Cannot understand the slip by Prince and being taken after Jimmy Smith.
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    Castonzo to the Colts hurts. That's a great fit for them, and I can see Peyton Manning's goofy grin right now.
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    Jordan is the player that makes the most sense. Problem is he is the best fit for the Chargers as well. I think we will need a small trade up to get him. The only other DEs that fit are Heyward and Wilkerson, who are lesser talents.
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    OTs Solder and Carimi ahead of Castonzo?

    Curious. And it's on the heels of the ESPN show with Bill Parcells who put Carimi in the third round.

    I don't think Solder and Carimi are first-round talents, but they may be taken due to need.
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    Quinn at 20?

    I doubt it.

    And if Bill passes on him. Well, i'll jump off a ledge until we find out the reason why we didn't take him á la Kindle last year.
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    Christian Ponder to the Redskins at 10? He has great intangibles but wow that is a shock....
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    Fairley to the Lions. does that make any sense playing next to Suh?
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    Remember, the way the Huddle Report competition (Gold standard in our industry) works is that you get 1 point if a player you have in the 1st gets picked in the 1st round, and 2 bonus points if he goes to the right team.

    Gosselin could easily be tipping off who is looking to trade down.
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    This is going to be interesting, I can see NE getting a second from Cincinnati for Hoyer, IF the league year is officially started and IF the QB run is as violent as Gos predicts. That break after round one could make things truly fun if teams can move players again.
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    Trading does look like it's going to get wild for a bit. :eek: :woot:
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    I think you're right.

    We would need to trade up to get him, he's so versatile. The bloodlines, etc.

    I wouldn't want to be like the Steelers in 1989 when they had two picks in the first round and ended up blowing it, not trading up to get Andre Rison.

    The 1989 NFL Draft: The Year the Steelers Had Two First Round Selections - Behind the Steel Curtain

    Even today, all these years later, the draft is still an art not a science. As Bill Parcells said recently on the draft tv show, it's players wearing pads and helmets not Tebucky Jones running the forty, that needs to be ultimately looked at.
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    Who's going to back up Brady at that point? Crompton? Matt Gutierez? Testaverde? It seems a big ask to get a quarterback this late in the offseason, whether by draft or free agency, and have him conversant enough in the Pats offensive system to be the primary backup in September.
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    A young, reliable backup is gold, especially given BB's spotty record of picking QBs. I'm not trading Hoyer for a 2.
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    FWIW in the actual article he does name the team, not just the slot...
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    Exactly - the slot means very little. The team/player fit is where it is at.
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    So let's imagine that Gosselin's sources are accurate. You're sitting at 17 and Jordan, Quinn, Watt, Amukamara, Costanzo etc. are all on the board. What do you do? Personally, I'd be on the phone trying like made to trade up from 28.
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    Not five minutes ago I was considering of the wisdom of trying to draft Jordan and Watt in this scenario. It would be an expensive front line, but Wow!

    I'm over it now, though. Trading up for Amukamara makes sense, since he can play corner or safety and provide value on punt returns also. I guess if I liked Constanzo more I'd grab him, but I'd be content to wait to see if he makes it to 28.
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    Well, this is fun.

    What he's saying is: there are teams desperate for quarterbacks who like the quarterbacks on offer enough to go for them in the first round.

    We should know with the first pick. If Carolina really do take Newton then the rush may be on and he could be right. Still, I'd bet that several teams would hang back to see if they could pick up their guy in the late first. (Jonathan Kraft said on ESPN the other day that taking a quarterback in the first round was preferable for the extra rookie contract year, even if you might still get him in the second.) Either way it's good for the Pats -- either front seven players fall or they have very valuable commodities to trade at 17 and 28.
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    Fairley and Suh would definately be interesting but i doubt it's going to happen...they have far bigger needs.
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    Somebody should make sure Andy Hart doesn't see THIS mock. Robert Quinn available at 20 and the Pats PASS. Get your resumes ready because on Sunday there might be an opening at PFW if this were the result. ;)
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