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    Re: Gosselin Gives Pats Draft An A

    Should I be worried? I seem to remember that most of the pundits were not too impressed with the Patriots draft year (which turned out very well).
     
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    Re: Gosselin Gives Pats Draft An A

    The teams that got A's include Pats, Denver and KC.. notice a trend.

    Other teams that got an A include Saints and Seahawks.. there goes that theory.
     
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    i am very happy abot this year draft too

    and allready excited too

    Go Pats !
     
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    If Mike Reiss is correct about the Pats going out of there way to draft tough, competitive players this year, I'll be even more satisfied with this draft. Watching the team roll over and play dead against the Ravens in the playoffs gave me flashbacks to some of the Patriots teams of years past.
     
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    Re: Gosselin Gives Pats Draft An A

    he give the ravens a B the eagels a C and the colts a C




    i don't think he know whats he is talking about. the ravens had one of the best if not the best drafts IMO yes the pats are a A but thats about all i can agree with.
     
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    While I admit draft scores the day after don't count for much, I was really happy with the way the draft went. We got really good value, scored some extra picks, and addressed almost every major need with solid players. This could turn the defense into a major strength again, which we haven't been able to say for a while. Plus I'm really looking forward to chanting GRONK.

    This was a critical draft for the Patriots, and I think BB aced the test. We'll find out soon enough. I can't wait for the season to start.
     
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    ravens supposedly had a great draft year as well, and the only guy worth mentioning from that class is Oher.

    The ravens this year picked some good players but Kindle possibly needs microsurgery. cody is good. the others i am not so sure.
     
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    When he was here Pioli's draft mantra used to encompass the smaller pool philosophy. The Pats are looking for talent that fits their system and scheme. Everyone knows the scheme fit needs, although at times a segment of the fanbase chooses to ignore them in favor of flashier hyped up talent. Many here have forgotten what the system tennants are altogether because they don't care about things like off field antics or indiscretions or uneven motors or guys obcessing about getting paid. They just want brand name, recognizable, highly hyped talent.

    Our old pal Richard Seymour when commenting on what happened here last season said that more than ever the young talent entering this league is more wrapped up in achieving the lifestyle of the NFL player than winning championships. He said if he were starting his own franchise from scratch he would target guys to whom football truly matters. He would sacrifice a little top end talent to acquire the kind of talent that is inclined to overachieve via hard work because winning at this level matters that much to them.

    Sadly, Richard was a do as I say not as I do kind of leader... Belichick is looking to retool his leadership core on this team and as part of the process he is surrounding them with the kind of football matters guys he believes will be either be easier to coach and lead if not likely to emerge as leaders themselves. There are no guarantees, teambuilding a championship roster is as much art as science, but genuine leaders seldom emerge from amongst the most overhyped college players because leaders more often than not are forged out of adversity.

    I like the fact that nobody who walks through that door, over which the sign hangs that admonishes you to check your ego and do your job, for the first time this season will have already achieved financial security for this generation, let alone their grandkids... They're going to have to go some to prove they belong here and deserve it 4-5 years down the road, although by all accounts including where they were drafted they certainly have the tools to.

    I also after giving it some thought like the idea that the one unit on the team that appeared to be set on the heels of recent drafts and FA signings, a unit where diva like egos often lurk just below the surface, just got a little kick in the ass message that there is a new sherriff in town, drafted in the first round, and he's a four downs player...

    In a perfect world I would have loved to see him draft another one of those kinds of guys to light a fire under some resident asses on the OL, particularly amongst the guards/center since Vollmer likely lit a little flame under the tackles last season that continues to flicker heading into this season. Competition is a great motivator.
     
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    there were some mistakes he made like camerion sheffield to the chiefs and dolphins, but overall, a good article. i hope he's right. personally, i excited about our draft. can't wait to see some of the new guys.
     
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    The Ravens definitely did not have as good a draft as people think they did. I know this isn't a Ravens board but I just really disagree with what people have been saying so I'll try to state my opinion here.

    Sergio Kindle was probably the best player available but there was absolutely no reason to draft him with 4 DE/OLB guys already on board in Terrell Suggs, Jarret Johnson, Paul Kruger (last year's 2nd round pick), and Antwan Barnes. Their two biggest holes were CB and a 3-4 DE that could generate some pressure, with Trevor Pryce aging and now being a part-time player, and they solved neither of those problems (DE Arthur Jones was a 5th round pick).

    Cody was an okay pick because Gregg is aging but Ngata can always play NT full-time. They didn't need a nose tackle as much as they needed a penetrating DE. Of course, their CB situation is a mess and Ozzie didn't draft a single DB.

    The fact of the matter is that except for Ray Rice, Ozzie has really struggled in the 2nd round with busts like Chris Chester, Adam Terry, Dan Cody, and Dwan Edwards (2 career regular season sacks in 6 seasons), and with Kindle on the roster, it looks like either Kindle or Kruger, since their positions overlap, will be added to that list.
     
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    I think these post-draft grades are a joke, but in today's media climate everyone feels the need to hand them out.

    It will take at least 2 years (but arguably it really takes 3) to assess this draft. Anything else is just prognostication and experience has shown me how much the media sucks at prognostication.
     
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    Somone actually LIKED the Patriots draft! I'm sure the naysayers will say that Gosselin needs his head examined, despite the fact that he has proven to be one of the best experts on the draft over the past several years.
     
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    I give this a +1!
     
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    Interesting what Seymour said.

    This draft was definitely about leadership and competition on defense after the Ravens fiasco. We have a lot of good, young and unfocused players and a trouble maker in Thomas so what better than to find a suitable replacement for all of them and let the best player win. Message sent...

    Restocked the tight ends, and added a couple nice looking OL prospects, refreshed our punter. Then sign one or two guys off the streets to help the team today.

    Kind of hard to whine too much but some fans will find a way I am sure.
     
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    Baltimore seemed to do what it always does in the draft and take productive players on the slide. It worked with Suggs and Rice, two names off the top of my head. But I agree, this year should change much for them on the field - outside of establishing depth.

    But really, how many positions did they improve in the draft?

    On the flip side, the Patriots improved the tight end position, linebacker position, special teams and secondary. Granted, the tight end position was empty, but even then, Crumpler, Gronkowski and Hernandez walk in with greater upside than when Graham and Watson were on the team together. Unlike the situation in Baltimore with Kindle and Kruger fighting to get on the field, McCourty can find different ways to get on the field from special teams, to nickel/dime packages and even as a starting corner. Wilhite and Wheatley have a lot to prove and maybe they should prove they can carry their weight in special teams like McCourty.
     
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    That was great, i feel like i have to smoke a ciggerette now.
     
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    This makes me feel so much better. :rolleyes:
     
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    I don't know, usually by the end of training camp you can get a good feel for who is going to be good and who is going to suck just by listening to what people are saying and reading between the lines.
     
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