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GOP sweep: Big governor victories in Virginia, NJ

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    GOP sweep: Big governor victories in Virginia, NJ - Yahoo! News

    Democrats are losing the independents ?????
    Time for a CHANGE !
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    Barry lived in NJ for the past 3 weeks and urged his supporters to turn out for his good friend J Corzine.



    I am happier about the outsider, conservative non politician Hoffman in NY.
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    It is a good size referendum on his policies. He is way to the left and the country isn't. It's also going to make a strong statement to Democrats in Red or Purple states that if they vote for all this Leftist crap they'll join the unemployed.
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    Those independent voters who helped elect Obama went with the
    REPUBLICAN dispite the fact that Obama spent a lot of time campaigning
    in New Jersey for the loser !

    If the Democrats won Virginia and New Jersey that would be claiming
    victory for Obama.

    Well they lost... so you be the judge.

    One thing we know for sure... Obama did not deliver his independent voters.
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    He really isn't, but by all means, continue propagating that myth.

    I mean, if you guys want to get on the party hats about a lackluster candidate and an incredibly unpopular incumbent Governor losing in a midterm election, more power to you.
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    Last time the pubs took NJ and Va in the off year election was 1993, last time the dems took Nj & VA gov races was 2005 think about it....
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    Tonight's elections might not seem like much on the surface, but all those Democrats in moderate states up for re-election in 2010 are losing their lunch right about now. These results will not help Obama advance his agenda over the next 12 months.
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    A lot of that has more to do with the respective candidates in the races, not who occupies the White House.
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    I think this is a combination of a lot of things, but the major ingredient to me, is tea. I think this is a referendum on big government, out of control spending, bailouts, and incumbents. DC better pay attention.
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    I got this crazy feeling that our ex smoker President is Lighting up tonight.
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    And how do you figure that these results are a repudiation of Obama's agenda?
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    Yeah, um, he appears to be, uh, doing quite well :confused:
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    It's the only way for the people to say NO to what's going on. And they have said NO today in the only way they can.
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    Maybe but the spin would be it was an endorsement of Obama if Dems won tonight. Just keeping it real.
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    You guys are like jests fans a couple of victories and your going to win the SB. :singing:
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    Oh really? Then why has Owens received the highest vote for a Democrat in NY-23 since 1990? Why did Democrats manage to increase their majorities in the New Hampshire state houses, while Democrats also held their own in Virginia despite losing the governorship? And while you're at it, perhaps you can explain to me how Obama's 58 percent approval in New Jersey contributed to Corzine's loss.
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    NY-23 = teabagger and Sarah Palin fail.
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    No surprise in VA, and as far as NJ goes, it's too bad Corzine lost, but he bought the governorship anyhow, and Christie is going to do more harm to the Republicans than Corzine would do good for the Democrats. By the way, in 2001 Mark Warner-D (VA) and McGreevy (D-NJ) won the governorships, so I don't really think it's particularly meaningful that Republicans won this time around.

    Meanwhile, looks like Dems have a good chance of winning NY-23, which would be a big deal since the righties bet an enormous amount on that race, and actually forced out the official Republican candidate.

    But, it looks like gay marriage is going down to defeat in Maine. That's too bad. We have to wait for more bigots to die off. That's how civil rights and women's rights ultimately prevailed. It took blacks 100 years after slavery to gain equality, and women 50 years after getting the right to vote to get equal rights. Usually, it's the courts that address the tyranny of the majority, and I suppose that's what will happen with gay rights.
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    If it was same family marriage, I am sure it would have passed in Maine.
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    Hoffman concedes in NY-23... oh sweet, sweet schadenfreude.
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    People still like obama (God knows why) but they don't like his policies.
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    Or it is as the talking heads on ALL the cable channels agreed: his lack of action on anything other than the health care bill.

    Democratic strategists were on CNN stating that this is just the start for Democrats, that they WILL lose seats in 2010...not enough to move the change the balance back to Republicans but still a dent in their lead, maybe even losing the "Super Majority" in the Senate as well.
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    patrick will be tossed to the curb in the next MA gov election.

    he's been a disaster
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    difference there though...his biggest challenger is a "former" Democrat and there is an over-2/3rds majority in each house making any change from him to a Republican or "Independent" meaningless.
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    No comments from the right on this, guess their wins in NJ and Va. are enough for one election.... kind of like peek a boo if no one pays attention, it does not happen. NY 23 has been Republican since the early 90's, and has been solidly republican.
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    This election suked. All I got to do was place an ineffective vote against our awful mayor (Menino) and vote for 4 ineffective city councilors.

    I did find out that I live in District 9 though, which is kind of cool.
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    COnservative party ticket no name recognition, pubbies spent 1mil on Dede and he came within 2 pts of winning from single digits a month ago... bet he get the seat next year if he runs.
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    No name recognition, wasn't anyone listening to Sarah???? Or Newt, or Herr Glenn or Kristol... thought these were the vanguards and spokesmen for the Republican Party:confused::confused:..

    Nothing quite like a Republican defeat, always an excuse... wait till next time, maybe they can get Herr Rush up there... :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Of course all the focus today will be on Va. and NJ....
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    Who?


    I can't speak for NJ but here in Va. the Democratic candidate was weak, weak, weak. He started out that way and that's the way he ended up. He also refused help from Obama for the longest time and spent a good deal of his run trying to distance himself from Obama - which may have just been his mistake. Or not. Like I said, he ran a poor campaign, and he didn't have much of a platform.

    Besides, as PatriotinNY so succiently stated in a different thread a few days ago, "who cares about an election in your backwater town?"

    I was most interested in the NY seat - simply because of all the Hoopla regarding the Ultra Conservatives taking over the party and the hype stating that a win for Hoffman would be a win for Sarah Palin.

    I wonder how they feel about that now?

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