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    Google reports 'alarming' rise in government censorship requests - CNN.com


    Looks like the Obama administration is spending more time trying to censor critics than helping the private sector create jobs.
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    Are these "agencies" Federal or simply American? If the latter, it's irrelevant to Obama (as much as that would pain you).
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    #54 Jersey

    In addition to chico's questions, wow much of this is corporate-driven? For example, featuring certain products/services over others? What sites?

    Details...
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    Government agencies.....
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    So, not necessarily the Obama administration, as you initially claimed...
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    I despise Google. One of the worst, lying, spying, disengenuous companies on the planet.
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    The article says "law enforcement agencies and courts" were doing this. A court could have any judge or panel of judges, but federal law enforcement agencies fall directly under the president's chain of command. While I'd have no problem with censoring something that could harm national security, the examples this article gives have nothing to do with that but rather an attempt to censor blogs which criticize law enforcement officers.
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    I agree with your take on what would be acceptable, but nothing I saw indicated these were federal -- thus my original question to 13.

    As far as I can tell, his claim that this has anything to do with Obama is based solely on his own partisan issues, and not anything in the story he linked.
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    Liberals defend censorship because it's okay when their guy does it

    News at 11
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    Conservatives defend censorship because it's okay when their guy does it

    News at 11
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    Instead of discussing the actual implications of this story, we're left to simply bicker about whether or not this is something we can blame on Obama.

    Of course, I should have expected this when I saw who started this thread.
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    Yes squared.
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    Specific example please...
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    So what are your thoughts on the specific implications of this story?


    We mocked the Chicoms when they pressured google to censor stories unfriendly to the state.

    Why is it OK now for the US government to censor content?
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    As soon as you answer the question re whether these were federal agencies -- i.e., under Obama, as you initially claimed and you continue to claim...
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    Well it is a false choice but here goes:

    Google government censorship and transparency: How big a deal are 6000 requests? | ZDNet


    Google Reports ‘Alarming’ Censorship Requests From Western Governments | Mediaite


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    Who said it was okay? I was taking exception to your OP in which you attempted to pin this on Obama, as is your wont, without much in the way of evidence to support that claim.
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    It isn't a false choice. Maybe you don't know what that term means.

    and you may want to look at the actual source here...
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    Censorship is wrong, but there are obviously situations where it must be considered -- child porn, suicide instructions for teens, building bombs, how to kill a police officer, court documents that don't have the names redacted, bold-faced lies that could cause someone real harm, and so on. The government has every right to ask for censorship, but does not have the right to demand it, accept in cases of national security in my opinion. I also think that as a society we need to address the reality that the internet invades people's privacy far more than we're used to.

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