No, just you. And I won't put words in your mouth.
So I'm a troll huh? congrats, you officially sound like an @$$.
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So just so I understand the commissioner:
If one of us gets a low level job with the Jets, and then, on our own without authorization of the team, decide to sneak into another team's practice, make a video, and hand it over to Goodell, he'll severely punish the Jets?
Sounds like a plan! Who's up for helping dock the Jets their 2009 1st round draft pick!
That's quite the precedent Roger seems ready to set - we should make sure we use it to our advantage.
I'm just wondering if we'll also need to secretly and illegally tape a conversation with the Jets GM and get fired, and then lie about our professional experience and background before he'll consider one of us a "credible" source of information like Walsh.
How can he punish the Pats for not turning over a tape they didn't have to turn over?
And how can they prove that Walsh taped anything on the Pats behalf or by their say?
Nothing will come out of this. Its crazy.
i hope you are right.
Florio had something written about that months ago, saying that he heard that if Spygate breaks again, and there's another big deal, BB will spill his guts.
but i believe that was before they released the Matt Walsh b.s. days before the Superbowl. scumbags.
I do want to use it because even if we taped the walkthrough (which I don't think we did), I think we've been overpunished already given that "spying" on practices, etc, has be done and gone unpunished through the history of football.
That disappoints me. We can point the finger all we want but in the end if our coach breaks the rules then he should be penalized. I don't like to see our coach penalized, but some responsibility has to be taken for infractions.
Maybe, just maybe what Walsh has will be damaging to the JETS and the rest of the NFL and not the Patriots at all.
How sweet would that be if Spector, TomASSe, Goodell, ESPN and all the haters of New England were totally duped by BB & the Patriots and this is one big fat set up all the way!!!
Man oh man would that take all......BB is a genius is he not? Maybe what I am suggesting is not so far fetched??
Having the tape of the walk through is not enough IMO to penalize us further. He should have to prove that the team told him to film it. How do we know he didn't do it on his own since he is an avid collector of sports memorabilia? He allegedly stole the AV field goal kick to win the SB. I wouldn't put it past him to have wanted the walkthrough footage for his collection.
Rich.....respect your opinion....But the Pats HAVE been punished....their reputation, accomplishments have been dragged through the manure pile.......and we the fans have been constantly barraged with mediots and fans of other teams trying to erase this wonderful journey we have all been on this decade!!! BUT ENOUGH IS ENOUGH......BB was wrong to tape defensive coordinators signals.......he, and the Pats were punished for it.....Now LET's MOVE ON!!!! No need to keep opening the scab up over and over on the wound here and piling on salt.........IF the intention of the league is to DESTROY the New England Patriots and all but remove them from the NFL.....then letting this issue keep going on and on and on......with punishment and scarlet letters over and over.......will accomplish this.........If it goes on much longer.......the Pats will never recover from it.....and the "Asterisk" sh^t will always tarnish the tremendous things that they have accomplished....
All I am saying Rich is.....let's move on.......
Goodell might be the biggest bag of douche ever.
That guy is in desperate need of an ass-kicking.
Having a Jets employee run the NFL is like if the Colts had their President run the Competition Committee.
oh wait.
yeah more and more i just want to stop watching this rigged bull**** game. But i can't give up on the Pats, regardless of how rigged and pathetic this league is.
Sorry, although I don't believe a tape of the walkthrough exists, but if Walsh produces one then Belichick is screwed. I don't buy the "Walsh acted alone" defense will work. It definitely won't work in the court of public opinion outside of New England.
I agree. I think Kraft would have no choice but to get rid of BB to save his team.
The point is, if there is a walk-through tape or some other damaging evidence to the organization that goes beyond the taping of defensive signals, then the organization and us fans have to suck it up and face whatever is coming to us.
Nobody knows what Walsh has, so this can't be "moved on" from until it is out in the open. And as long as the league is willing to accept the contributions of former Pats employees, then the issue will go on, as much as we'd like to see it go away.
As for opposing fans and mediots, we'll have to deal with them until Belichick retires.
This is what i've had a problem with from the beginning. The fans DO NOT deserve more hurt and punishment.
My main disagreement with the punishment, is that taking a #1 draft pick penalizes the fans (in other words the NFL's customers) even more than it does the franchise. This is a business and the NFL shouldn't penalize its customers for fear of this kind of fallout. As a business maneuver, fines.. and as much as I would hate it, suspensions, are the only intelligent and justifiable penalties.
The NFL has worked hard to make the draft a big fan holiday, and basically want it to become the "NFL's Christmas".
So, Then why stick a lump of coal in the stockings of a group of fans, who are of one of the leagues largest and most loyal. :nono:
If you feel like making us scapegoats and penalizing the organization and coach in the form of fines and suspensions, then fine.
In my opinion, that, coupled with the loss of our reputation was more than enough punishment.
As proof to support that it does not hurt BB (the offender) as much as fans, What would have happened if he retired right after we lost the pick, or retires if we lose another #1 pick? then basically its not him getting punished. It's the fans and the next coach!
Through his actions, Goodell hurt the fans and the players most with what he has put us through. The organization honestly got off the lightest with just financial ramifications. The players will forever have their hard work and accomplishments demeaned, over something they had nothing to do with. Imagine someday Tedy Bruschi's kids (or any other players kids) being told by classmates that their father cheated and didn't deserve his superbowl wins. This may be reaching a bit, but anyone who was once a kid knows this will more than likely happen, among other things.
Let me also mention that this team is a great asset to the league for not only building a respectable model of a franchise that all others are now following, but also that we set a pecedent at our own potential peril, of putting our resources into players who were first and foremost good people.
The team has not whined and asked for anything from the league.
What also goes unnoticed is that the Kraft family constructed a new stadium that is one of the leagues gems, without holding the league over a barrel and demanding a superbowl or other large league function be held here.
Not that the preceding paragraph was very important to this matter, but I think it is worth noting.