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    U.S. News - US wants 'fracking' on federal lands to disclose chemicals

    I'm sure people at the GOP and Fox News will call him out for being a socialist comime Muslim that hate America and hate jobs for it but w/e.....

    I like clean water
    I like clean air
    I like trees

    Money< Environment always!!!:rocker:

    Do the supporters of fracking like clean water? Or is money more important?
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    How do you complain about something like this?

    Its ok for you to drill on federal lands, just please tell us what you're injecting into the water table.
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    This is common sense, but somehow when Darth Cheney influenced the Haliburton Exception.. which is stupid, the people have a right to know.

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    I'm proud that Mr. Cheney did that for a DUBAI Headquatered corporation.

    http://www.fahad.com/2007/03/halliburton-moves-from-houston-to-dubai.html

    Our nation needs more Patriotic Chicken Hawks like good 'ol Dick Cheney. The key is to enrich the Arabs while endangering Americans' drinking water.
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    I have a real fondness for draft dodging favorite sons who turn into neo cons.. ;););)
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    So what position did Cheney hold with Halliburton in 2007? How much Halliburton stock?


    How bout Obama using taxpayer $$$$$ to finance a project to benefit the UAE royals?

    USAID-Georgia Pipeline Project to Benefit Arab Royals - U.S. Trade & Aid Monitor


    :rolleyes:

    Since it Obama I suppose this is fine with you?
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    The Raw Story | Cheney's Halliburton stock options rose 3,281% last year, senator finds

    3000%

    NOte: Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) asserts that Cheney's options -- worth $241,498 a year ago -- are now valued at more than $8 million. The former CEO of the oil and gas services juggernaut, Cheney has pledged to give proceeds to charity.

    Cheney told "Meet the Press" in 2003 that he didn't have any financial ties to the firm.

    �Since I left Halliburton to become George Bush's vice president, I've severed all my ties with the company, gotten rid of all my financial interest," the Vice President said. "I have no financial interest in Halliburton of any kind and haven't had, now, for over three years.�

    Cheney continues to received a deferred salary from the company. According to financial disclosure forms, he was paid $205,298 in 2001; $262,392 in 2002; $278,437 in 2003; and $294,852 in 2004.
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    YIKERS.....

    The Wall Street Journal on Dick Cheney's Halliburton Stock Options | Naomi Klein

    “Richard Cheney recently cashed in options valued at about $35 million in Halliburton & Co. . . .[the Dallas oil-services company where he served as chairman and chief executive for five years before stepping down last month to become the GOP vice presidential nominee.]

    “Mr. Cheney was one of five Halliburton insiders who sold a combined total of 859,232 shares for $45.09 to $53.44 a share, or about $45.4 million, between Aug. 10 and Aug. 31, according to First Call/Thomson Financial . . . . [which tracks trading activity among company insiders.]

    “Mr. Cheney exercised options to sell 660,000 shares between Aug. 21 and Aug. 28, according to First Call. The sale, which was the largest by a Halliburton executive to date, insider-data analysts say, netted Mr. Cheney an $18.5 million profit after he paid about $16.4 million to exercise options. . . .[An option allows an individual to buy a stock at a pre-set, or strike, price. If the stock price goes up, that individual then can buy shares below market value.] Mr. Cheney exercised options at between $21 and $29.56 a share, and sold them for $52.28 to $53.93 each.

    “Mr. Cheney also disposed of 39,200 company shares he held outright, worth $2.1 million, by transferring them to Halliburton for payment of a federal income-tax withholding obligation, according to documents filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. At the end of August, Mr. Cheney held 189,800 shares outright, and 500,000 unvested options.”
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    Exactly, he sold off the stock BEFORE becoming taking office and 7 years BEFORE Halliburton moved thier HQ.

    Thanks for proving my point HD
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    I wasn't arguing or trying to prove shizzz...just that Cheney got PAID.

    what say you about him still getting a salary in '01,'03,'03?

    PolitiFact | Chris Matthews says Cheney got $34 million payday from Halliburton

    34 Million

    needless to say, they got into the 'closed door energy policy meeting' that chose to exempt halliburton from the disclosure of fracking materials.

    I think we all should know what they are pumping into our land, don't you?
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    There's a reasonability issue here.

    You can have a clean home. You could also scrub every inch of your home with a toothbrush. Over regulation is how the EPA kills jobs.

    I believe in reasonable cleanliness. But you could find a reason to kill project with regulation.
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    Fracking can kill people.. and potentially can kill millions more.

    Do you believe that a company has the right to shield what chemicals it is pouring into the earth, and potentially ruining the water supply of millions of people?

    Check out:
    Dish, Texas
    Dimock, Pennsylvania
    Rifle, Colorado

    Fracking requires that you pour millions of gallons of H20 into natural gas wells, to extract the gas.. after being used the millions of gallons are brought to sewage treatment plants, but as the sewage treatment plants do not know what to treat the water for.. essentially untreated sewage is recycled into rivers..

    In Ohio, recent earthquakes are attributed to fracking..

    In 2005 there were new regulations, called the Haliburton Loophole.. oh never mind, have been over this before and again.
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    Review & Outlook: The Facts About Fracking - WSJ.com

    Fracking contaminates drinking water. ...EPA administrator Lisa Jackson, a determined enemy of fossil fuels, recently told Congress that there have been no "proven cases where the fracking process itself has affected water."

    • Shale exploration is unregulated. Environmentalists claim fracking was "exempted" in 2005 from the federal Safe Water Drinking Act, thanks to industry lobbying. In truth, all U.S. companies must abide by federal water laws, and what the greens are really saying is that fracking should be singled out for special and unprecedented EPA oversight.
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    One day, soon after I turned 18, I saw this thing coming at me. It was far away, but I could see it coming fast and right at me.

    At the last minute, I stepped out of the way and it missed me by "that much"! After it went by, I realized it was a "draft".

    And that's how the term draft-dodger was invented....:cool:
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    Dish, Texas can no longer drink its water, they have to import it... you criticize the EPA and then you praise them in the same thread????

    This is what it is, millions of gallons of water are forced into fizzures to drive out the natural gas, and because of the loophole we cannot find out what they are using.. and the sewage treatment companies who have to treat the excess do not know what to treat it for..

    We all live downstream..

    What the Frack? Natural Gas from Subterranean Shale Promises U.S. Energy Independence--With Environmental Costs [Slide Show]: Scientific American

    An advocacy group, Shaleshock... currently the actions taken around Dimock, Penn threaten the watershed that supplies water from NYC to Philadelphia, about 19 million people rely on this water in this area..

    http://shaleshock.org/

    A very good book on this subject, End of Country..

    http://www.seamusmcgraw.com/
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