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  1. R_T26

    R_T26 Banned

  2. Brownfan80

    Brownfan80 In the Starting Line-Up

    That's a great recap of the situation so far. And though it remains to be seen exactly how much the Patriots will miss Branch, I do think they're right, Branch will end up missing Brady more.
  3. DarrylS

    DarrylS Supporter Supporter

    I agree a good recap, Branch has excelled here in this system, but not sure how he will do for another team. This guy is digging himself into a very deep hole with the help of his obviously inept agent. I would welcome him back under just about any condition, hopefully he comes back soon.
  4. Digger44

    Digger44 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

    When will he realize that he is killing his value more and more? While there may be some sucker team willing to pay more than us, the longer the holdout becomes the less the more becomes.
  5. JR4

    JR4 In the Starting Line-up Supporter

    He needs to fire his agent, save face and get back to work or ask PATs if
    their 19M offer is still available.
  6. patchick

    patchick Moderatrix Staff Member Supporter

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    Interesting piece because it focuses purely on the tactics taken. No matter how you feel about the contract situation itself, it surely seems like the agent misplayed this badly by trying to "talk his way out of town." The Ty Law saga should have shown him that the Patriots don't bite on that.

    They played a high-stakes game of chicken, now they're facing the consequences. If Branch follows through on the game-10 threat he not only plays for free this year, but quite likely takes a hit on the next contract's value. That's a multi-million-dollar blunder.
  7. patsox23

    patsox23 Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    That's the problem, though. Belichick doesn't play chicken. He doesn't really bluff. So it's a completely stupid strategy.
  8. Mike the Brit

    Mike the Brit Minuteman Target Supporter

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    You're right that the article focuses on tactics but I don't agree with Florio's argument.

    Here is the main claim:

    "The root of the problem, as we see it, is that Branch's agent opted to go public with his efforts to squeeze more money out of the team, enlisting among others Ron Borges of the Boston Globe to carry Branch's water. Though other players, such as Richard Seymour, have had contract squabbles with the team, their agents didn't launch a media campaign to make the team look bad for not coughing up the coin.

    In this case, Jason Chayut claimed that the Patriots crammed a five-year deal down Branch's throat, even though as we previously pointed out Chayut's firm had one second-rounder in each year after Branch who signed a five-year contract. Borges, likely at Chayut's behest, enlisted NFLPA executive director Gene Upshaw to claim that New England blazed the trail of five-year take-it-or-leave-it packages for second-rounders, even though as we previously pointed out Upshaw's Raiders were the first team to roll out this specific tactic.​

    And that's the real tragedy here. Based on Branch's recent "everything's going to work out" comments, he doesn't sound like a guy who wants out of New England. But his agent failed to properly understand the tactics that would work -- and the tactics that would fail -- in trying to do business with the Patriots.​

    It's not as if the Patriots are unique in this regard. No team wants to see and hear inflammatory comments from a player's agent in the media at a time when negotiations are occurring."​

    I think that Florio is too star-struck by the role of the media. His claim is that the Patriots (read here "Bill Belichick") are doing things that they otherwise wouldn't (won't do things that they otherwise would) just because they are angry at the disrespectful things that have been said by Chayut about the negotiations.

    But surely the lesson that we should have learned from the Patriots dealings with Ty Law is that Belichick puts those things to one side when it comes to making a deal. It's a great, great characteristic for a businessman.

    How to interpret what's going on then?

    (1) Possibility one.

    The Patriots have given their best offer. Chayut knows it's their best offer. He and Branch don't want to take it. Why hold out then? If Branch is determined to leave then the only issue is the franchise tag. He is holding out in the belief that it will be less likely that the franchise tag is applied. I see no evidence for that.

    Dumb move by the agent.

    (2) Possibility two.

    Chayut does not believe that he has the Patriots' best offer but thinks that Branch holding out will get them a better one. Might he be right? The only precedent we have is Richard Seymour. At the very least, the Patriots have made things difficult for themselves by creating the belief through their dealings with Seymour that they buckle under pressure. It now becomes very important for the Patriots to resist that image. Hence they will be less inclined to increase the offer than they would have been had Branch not held out.

    Once again, dumb move by the agent.
  9. MoLewisrocks

    MoLewisrocks Supporter Supporter

    Caught a bit of Felger yesterday when he wasn't talking Sox. He made a related point that if Chauyt had any hope of pressuring the Patriots into increasing their offer as part of a holdout ending strategy he blew that too by going public in detail with the offers made pre holdout. Now there is no way they negotiate any further to sweeten the offer because it would be readily apparent that his holdout had resulted in a deal with increased value.

    There just doesn't appear to be any way out or or around this situation that Chayut basically created. And it would appear that the only one who really doesn't get that yet is his client.
  10. lobster

    lobster On the Game Day Roster

    This first cut-down could be a critical time where the Pat's won't want to cut a decent player because Branch has a lousy agent. The Pat's might instead elect to cut Branch in the first cut-down for failing to fulfill his contract, and then file suit. Branch would go on a unpaid Reserve-Legal list with NFL approval, until he puts up the necessary $millions in a settlement with the Pat's and becomes a free agent.
  11. PatsWickedPissah

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    Pigs will fly before that happens
  12. patchick

    patchick Moderatrix Staff Member Supporter

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    Hmm, interesting. But I think there's a flaw in that argument -- it assumes that the audience the team is worried about is the fans. What a team really has to worry about is that other players will think that the holdout worked and will follow suit. But the players would know whether Branch got a sweetened deal regardless of whether the details ever made it to the paper.
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