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  1. Harry Boy

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    #11 Jersey

    Newt does know a lot about marriage. Isn't he on his 3rd? I have to give the guy some props as even though his personal life has been a disaster he stills runs on the "Family values" platform and his followers eat it up like candy. Only in America!
     
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    Gingrich will not be nominated, he is right that Obama's obligation is to enforce the law. not decide WHICH laws should be enforced and defended.

    He brings a good point here.


    He is exactly right in his assessment here. Obama of course said he supported the DOMA during his last campaign.
     
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    This was the other half of the shoe to drop in the other thread. He overreached his authority in a dangerous and unprecidented way. A POTUS, as Chief Law Enforcer of the country, unilaterally choosing which laws he will or will not enforce? Bad. Very Very Bad.

    Like I said in the other thread. He's not the first to overreach in a dangerous manner (W, anyone?) but I hope he will be the last, and we wake up and vote in a constitutionally bound POTUS.
     
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    hahahahahahhahahahah....


    classic "Gingritch"

    Isnt this the same a-hole that impeached a president over a blow job?


    loser
     
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    Newt always was the jealous type.:p

    But you are not adressing the issue here of how dangerous a precident this really is. For two threads now.

    I agreed DOMA is unconstitutional, and any attempt at controlling, regulating, or codifying a religious institution like marraige is establishment of religion. Its akin to saying "girls cannot be baptized".

    But you wont address this atrocious behavior by the POTUS. And how dangerous it can be.

    There are remedies in the Federal court system. Its their job. To determine constitutionality of such laws. Let them do their job and you do yours.
     
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    They can start impeachment hearings on anything they want, Harry. Whether they can win or not is another story. From what I understand, and I may be understanding it wrong, Obama did not order DOMA struck down or anything radical, he just said that the government is not going to defend it any longer each time it hits the courts.



    If you're truly worried about it, I can only sugget that you stay out of parking lots when Newt is in town.
     
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    Hmmm...might actually have been worth it. The BJ, I mean!;)
     
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    re. Gingrich's Palin/Roe v Wade analogy, one critical distinction b/t the 2 issues (not talking about the legal precedent) is that in one instance the government would be stripping people's rights while in the other it's expanding them -- but people like Newt don't care about individual rights, so the fact that this is lost on him isn't surprising
     
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    Ah, but he and every evangelicon would tell you they are expanding the rights of the unborn. It was a good analogy and hits both sides of sensitive social issues close to home. Not that I agree with DOMA. I dont.

    The whole point of the analogy was to illustrate the precedent.
     
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    As shirtsleeve said it depends on your POV. The President doesn't get to decide which laws to enforce. IF he was against this bill (which he supported during the election BTW) he should have worked with congress to repeal the bill.


    The law is not a matter of subjective opinion.

    That is how a republic works.

    The analogy is exactly right.
     
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    As I stated, I wasn't questioning the precedent, only referring to a fundamental difference b/t the issues.

    People can pretend that the unborn must have rights, or that they know when life begins, but that's another issue entirely.
     
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    Not surprisingly, most of your post has nothing to do with what I wrote.

    See my response to shirtsleeve w/regard to the small part of your post that was relevant.
     
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    No big disagreement here, except that I understood the point of the analogy was to hit a liberal right where gay marraige hits an evangelicon. Right in the heart. It brings it home.
     
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    I think you touched on it a bit in your reply earlier...

    "He's not the first to overreach in a dangerous manner (W, anyone?) "

    Ever since your boy signed a law for a single person (Teri Schaivo) and cooked up an invasion, Barack is going to have to strangle an orphan on live TV for me to mention the 'I' word ... nahmean?

    (NOt that these two things are even close to comparable... gay marriage, vs war, death, and invasions....give me a break)
     
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    Monica was a Cow....

    Looking back now, The witchunt probably helped him more than it hurt him. It certainly worked out better for Clinton than it did for Gingritch.
     
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    :rofl::rofl::rofl:

    My boy? Puuuleeeze.

    Where were you when I was screaming in outrage at the Patriot Act? In the No Child Left Behind Act? In the massive expansion of Medicaid?

    He is NOT my boy. Never was.
     
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    You are the one (Chico) trying to draw distinctions between which laws are legit by taking away rights as opposed to granting rights in your opinion. This is a false distinction IMO.

    Don't like the law intro a bill and repeal it.
     
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    Maybe I should have put an "OT" before my comment.
     
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    I was trying to quote a comment made by Chico, my bad sorry I think we agree on this issue. I corrected the post why you were replying.


    me :bricks:
     
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