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  1. TheGodInAGreyHoodie

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    I know a QB is not allowed to hand off or throw to the o-line?

    But are they able to recover fumbles?

    Here is my idea for a gimmick play:

    Koppen snaps the ball to Brady.

    Brady place the ball on the ground under Koppen, Koppen picks it up and runs forward.

    Would that be a legal fumble and fumble recovery?
  2. mgteich

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    Re: gimmick play question.

    This is called a "fumblerooksi". I believe that it is now illegal in the NFL. In the original version, it the RG that recovers the fumble.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fumblerooski

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    Re: gimmick play question.

    You're about 20 years late to the party with that one.
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    Re: gimmick play question.

    Howabout one where Brady runs a play action fake and then quickly puts the ball under his jersey.

    Brady then proceeds to stroll nonchalantly down the field, whistling a little tune to himself while everyone is trying to figure out what in the heck happened to the ball.

    By the time anyone realizes it, Brady's 20 yards away from the end zone and then takes the ball out from under his jersey and runs in for the TD.

    I'm sure THAT'S never been done before and is guaranteed to work!
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    Re: gimmick play question.

    now starring in "Too much time on his hands"...God In The Grey Hoodie
  6. Michigan Dave

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    Re: gimmick play question.

    Hmmm...that sounds like a good idea.

    Regards,

    Tom Osborne, 1984

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    Re: gimmick play question.

    I've posted about gimmick plays before but never had to question their legality. But before we shoot down this guy's premise, why not come up with some LEGAL gimmick play ideas?

    I have a few. :singing:

    I mentioned months ago the idea of using Moss & Stallworth in a potential hook & ladder. Extremely dangerous obviously but very effective for say the end of a half.

    Another high risk/high reward play that I recently thought up was having Maroney or Faulk fake reverse to Welker & then pass to Moss.
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    Re: gimmick play question.

    Those are pretty standard "gimmick" plays that most teams have.
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    Re: gimmick play question.

    With the exception of the Randy flea flicker we haven't really tried any this season. I'm just saying with all these toys it's fun to play with the idea.
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    Re: gimmick play question.

    All gimmick plays are pretty-much standard, hard to come up with a novel play in football these days.
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    Re: gimmick play question.

    When you have the best offense that has ever played the game, these low percentage plays are a waste of time. There are a few "trick" plays in all play books, ones that are practiced. The certainly include reverses, flea flickers, and options by the RB or WR.
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    Re: gimmick play question.

    There was also the statue-of-liberty handoff we pulled off earlier this year.
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    Re: gimmick play question.

    No, there are some that are pretty rare. They've been seen before, but not that often. I would call reverse-passes and throwbacks to the QB fairly standard. A double throwback like Brady-Moss-Brady-Gaff was pretty uncommon.
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    Re: gimmick play question.

    au contraire

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVrsGHs2MCk

    The ultimate gadget play begins around 3:30, and I am fairly certain I have never seen this tried in the National Football League. I don't think we should try this on the Pats, but the Bengals or the Ravens might have the personnel for it.

    PFnV
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    Re: gimmick play question.

    I think the name of this play is the "annexation of Puerto Rico." This was used by the Little Giants to win the O'Shea bowl.
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    Best trick play I know of was one I actually was a part of in high school in the mid 80's.

    Situation is 4th down.
    Play is fake punt.

    I being the punter, received the snap as usual ~15 yards behind center. Take a quick step as to punt but instead throw a high arcing pass to the gunner racing down the field. At this point the gunner should have been blocked several times and you'll get a pass interference, holding, or illegal contact penalty.

    I believe I've seen this once in an NFL game and wouldn't be surprised to learn if a new rule went into place to prevent this type of play in the future. All I know is we did it twice and it worked both times.
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    Actually, just answered my own question. Rule states that the gunner is allowed to be blocked by the defense all the way down the field. However, if any other player goes out into the pattern then that is a normal pass play and interference can be called.
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    We used to use a good one when I was quarterbacking in high school. I've never seen it in the NFL, so I always crediting my brilliant coach for thinking it up.

    We would use a normal shotgun setup with a WR on the side of our sideline, and the rest of the receivers stacked on the opposite side of the field. We would break huddle and I would pretend to be counting players, then would act as if we had 12 players when in fact we had only 11. Then I would start yelling at the lone WR to get off the field, as did the coach, and he would sprint to the sideline. As soon as he reached the sidelines I would snap the ball and he would run up field. Most of the time the D never followed him as they figured he was just running off the field, so I would have a receiver open downfield without anybody within 20 yards of him.

    This play was legal because we used him as a motion man, but it only really worked around mid field because he had to pretend he was running straight to the sidelines. We scored 3 or 4 touchdowns on it one year, but it got ugly a few times once teams started figuring it out.
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    That's similar to one we used where I would line up in shotgun and start screaming at a WR to get back off the line (he was lined up legally.) I would start walking over to him, and then when I reached the end of the line, the ball would be snapped to the back, who would toss it to me for an easy score.

    Indianapolis tried to run a similar play against us in the 2004 playoffs, but Manning failed to come to a stop as an eligible receiver and they got flagged. The commentary from the Indy radio announcers on the 3G2G DVD is hilarious.
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    Re: gimmick play question.

    That's called a MoeLarryCurly.

    It's been done.:D
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