Discussion in 'Political Discussion' started by DisgruntledTunaFan, Jun 3, 2010.
YouTube - George W. Bush "I Would Waterboard Again!"
Can't watch youtube, but I'm a fan of waterboarding, so I guess "Go Bush"!
At some point, an American soldier will be captured and waterboarded and suddenly the righties will recognize it as torture. Barbaric behavior should not be sanctioned by the government, and as yet there's little evidence that waterboarding worked and even less evidence that it worked better than other methods, such as the interrogation techniques used by the FBI.
Good for him, the middle east dogs laugh at waterboarding, they can show you what real torture is.
Where can I sign up to be waterboarded? I'd much prefer that to having my beheading ending up on the internet.
Perhaps. How ironic though that the fates of many our our soldiers and journalists would have been so much better if their treatment at the hands of our enemies would have been limited to just that. Why is it that its that treatment that escapes the headlines here?
There is legitimate debate over the effectiveness of it but the motivation for it's use is to save lives.
Truth. Then again we're nnot too shabby in that dept either. I'm sure waterboarding is extremely unpleasant but I can think of worse fates than that.
IIRC, no American soldiers that have been captured, have ever been returned alive. So if WB'ing is the worst that would happen, I think our bravest in arms would breathe a sigh of relief.
We can only wish that our soldiers were treated like we treat their leaders.
D Pearl says hi.
there are some things that the public is better off not knowing about...let the professionals protect the country and the public can worry about other stuff, like oil spills.
Waterboarding has been prosecuted as far back as the Spanish-American war.
Interesting to see an American president admit to torture.
Go to Jail, go DIRECTLY TO JAIL! Do not pass GO!, do not collect $200
So glad this piece of &*%t is no longer our president.
Thank goodness Obama's put a stop to all that. AOL Search
Good old Bush!
He's like herpes, he'll go away but he's always there lol.....
For some reason it continues to amaze me to see people point to other nations', or people's, behavior as justification for our own.
If there's some principle behind a belief that waterboarding isn't torture, or torture is OK, fine -- but the notion that we're not as bad as some really bad people isn't a particularly compelling defense.
With all due respect, Boxer...bullsh!t.
You do what you're told by our laws and civilians in this country. The president, joint chiefs and pentagon are not above the law just because operations are beyond the borders. Just because the military does a very difficult job in a complete hell hole like the Middle East does not give it the authority to do whatever it wants to do. What makes you think anyone has that right?
I understand your point, and don't disagree with it in a general sense, but it's all relative, isn't it? If you're chopping off the arms of bank robbers, and you're pointing to the fact that Nation X beheads them, then I agree. However, if you're waterboarding captured terrorists, while terrorists are mutilating, murdering, and beheading those they hold, then I think your position loses a bit.
I don't think it is relative if the question is whether what we're doing is OK. If we think torture is wrong, or ineffective, we shouldn't be doing it. What other people -- including those we are potentially torturing -- do doesn't matter.
(Now, if you want to take that into consideration in determining the "right" way to handle them, that could be valid, imo. But then we need to decide whether we're punishing them or interrogating them.)
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