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George Carlin, R.I.P.

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    Best known for playing the kindly Mr. Conductor on "Thomas the Tank Engine" and his rigorous fitness habits, comedian George Carlin died at 71 after almost surviving his 48th heart attack.

    Personally, Carlin's work and philosophy most closely reflects my own. While his later work got more bitter and negative (Harry Boy knows what I'm talking about), his cynicism and utter frustration with the bahavior and gullibility of the human race was, IMO, a reflection of his disappointment with people's inability to recognize bullsh!t when they see it. More to the point, he might have been saddenned at how we tended to, seemingly without fail, deceived our own potential and reverted into the soft, cushy and SAFE life that conformity and obedience promised.

    For proof, I offer the subjects of discussion on these threads...including this one if you like.

    Have at it, sheep.
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    There's a thread in the Pub - where it belongs.
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    Perhaps. OTOH, many of his best routines were political in nature.
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    It belongs here as much. I can imagine you don't like Carlin...
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    They were but this still belongs in the Pub.
    It doesn't belong here at all. I liked Carlin a lot, I saw him live once and have a good number of his CDs; however his death isn't a political event.
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    I like the one...who posted it, was it PC? Just last week. About how he doesn't vote because he doesn't want to take responsibility for these idiots. Made me start to re-think my strategy.
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    Yeats..............(is that ten?)
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    I could sound all educated n stuff by saying "thought so", But I had no idea.... but I like it a lot.
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    Not like Tim Russert or Dan Rather?
    Political commentary carries no more weight than political comedy (yes, it's redundant).
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    It was hard for me to pick just a few lines, it's always been one of my favorite poems--funny, I first learned about it in 8th grade or so reading one of Parker's Spenser novels, one of them was called "The Widening Gyre" and had a few lines at the beginning.

    Turning and turning in the widening gyre
    The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.

    Surely some revelation is at hand;
    Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
    The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
    When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
    Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
    A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
    A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
    Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
    Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
    The darkness drops again; but now I know
    That twenty centuries of stony sleep
    Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
    And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
    Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
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    PS, Sorry for the Carlin hi-jack....
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    I loved it when he went after the "hypocrisy thing" and "people's inability to recognize bullsh!t"
    (obama fans) had to get that in there, my Mother In Law is gone now, she was visiting us when Carlin was around a long time ago, he was on the news being interviewd and she said to me, "I like that guy he's funny" I hade one of his tapes with all the swearing in it, I gave her some ear phones and a cassette player, she sat for a half hour chuckling, giggling and blushing, later that day we were all out in the yard eating and I said to her "did you like that Carlin Tape" she said yes, he's a riot" then I knew I had her, I lead her into this, I waited for about ten minutes then I looked at her directly in the face and said "gramma, do you want a f-cking hot dog" I thought she was going have a stroke, my wife called me a drunken a$s hole, my kids were rolling on the ground laughing, then I said "see, thats what Carlin talks about, people laugh when he says it when I say it the same people that laugh at him are outraged at me, he's a wonderful funny talented famous superstar, I'm a "dirty old man"

    I loved my Mother In Law, Ive' done some terrible things to her but she always laughed them off.

    I used to get mad at Carlin but I liked him.
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    I saw one of Carlins most recent HBO specials. Very sinical, but a lot of truth. He said that when we say "God bless America" do we realize that if he blesses the U.S. then he must be blessing every other country equally? If you believe in God (a god The God), then we know we can't be God's favorite country...Carlin's words, not mine.

    He also said in mocking those who believe their deceased parents are watching over them...

    "Who do they watch over after their children die?":eek:
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    Now, don't be silly. Everything Russert did was political. Carlin touched on Politics but it was hardly "political comedy".

    Whatever.
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    Why can't we be God's favorite country? We already know God has favorite football teams.
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    Good point! Actually, I guess we can choose to believe whatever we please.
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    We thought he did, but after last year....proof that there's no God...I mean...the Giants?
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    That just proves that He's got a sense of humor.

    "HA! Watch what I do here...look at this...look at this...ELI MANNING!"

    *in best 'Family Guy' God voice...
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    The man was a groundbreaking humorist. The world is worse of for his loss of perspective, and a better place because of his comedic stylings.

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